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Yet another “firearms expert” that doesn’t have any actual experience. I’ve seen the 9mm and the .45 used in combat - the .45 was a killer, the 9mm was a wounder.

The M-14 in 7.62mm killed reliably close up and at distance, the M-16 didn’t do as well.

I was shot by an AK. I’m still here.

Gun writers are a dime a dozen.

[PapaBear3625]

Yet another “firearms expert” that doesn’t have any actual experience. I’ve seen the 9mm and the .45 used in combat - the .45 was a. killer, the 9mm was a wounder.

That's why I carry a .45 with Federal hollowpoints.

Then again, your military experience was most likely with FMJ rounds, and 9mm FMJ will tend to just make a small wound channel through the target. 9mm hollow points (when they expand -- sometimes they clog up on the target's clothing and fail to expand) will do a lot of damage.

Still, I like to carry .45

[rjsimmon]

I’ve seen the 9mm and the .45 used in combat - the .45 was a killer, the 9mm was a wounder.

Absolutely concur! Stopping power is real and I too have seen it. I have seen a .45 pick a man up off of the ground. As well I have seen 9mm go right through a body.

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the .45 used in combat - the .45 was a killer

 

A friend of mine attested to that. It was him versus 4 of the German Wehrmacht in heavy winter clothing at close range. He said they dropped like sacks of potatoes. He was deep in the s*** at the time - expended all ammo of available heavy weapons and other small arms, anything else that could have been of use was on fire, his AO was overrun by German troops, his unit was scattered and isolated - like he was - and he was down to a 1911A1 with two spare magazines and a bayonet. Not sure why they didn't shoot him outright. Maybe since he was an officer they were trying to capture him instead. They had bayonets fixed on their K98s, probably thought they were going to corner him and get a surrender that way. Or else maybe they were out of ammo too. He didn't have time to check their weapons out of curiosity, just shoot & scoot the hell out of there.