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Lessons on Gunfighting from Wyatt Earp
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 12/24/2018 | D Burnell

Posted on 12/24/2018 5:02:06 AM PST by w1n1

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To: yarddog

Oops. I meant that reply for Schurman.


41 posted on 12/25/2018 5:34:45 PM PST by yarddog
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To: yarddog

I have helped run CCW shooting qualification tests for few years. Many bring guns they have literally never fired. A red flag is a new gun owner with a striker fired gun. The head instructor makes them prove that they understand and can operate the weapon. IMHO newbie Glock owners are a ND waiting to happen.


42 posted on 12/25/2018 5:55:33 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

I am not exactly unfamiliar to instructing people in the shooting sports.


43 posted on 12/25/2018 5:59:28 PM PST by yarddog
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To: w1n1
From the article:

The answer is, merely, safety. To ensure against accidental discharge of the gun while in the holster, due to hair-trigger adjustment, the hammer rested upon an empty chamber.

Gibberish.

There was good reason for only loading five, but it had nothing to do with any "hair trigger" action job that may have been performed on the revolver.

I did enjoy the rest of the article.

44 posted on 12/25/2018 6:24:30 PM PST by BikerTrash
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To: Fightin Whitey

No, that was part of the cut-and-paste - I mean, yeah, that’s the ticket. My grandfather, Tommy Flanagan, played cards with Doc Holiday. Yeah, and he was married to...Morgan Fairchild. When he was 99! Yeah!


45 posted on 12/25/2018 6:45:41 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: w1n1

Thanks for the read.


46 posted on 12/25/2018 7:02:10 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Larry Lucido

Ha! Fooled myself on that one.

But I suppose we could make it fictional.

I mean, we’re both in our early twenties, we have lots of time to get it right...sure, that’s it!!


47 posted on 12/26/2018 4:10:40 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: yarddog

“...Finally, dropping a loaded Glock will almost never result in a discharge. Dropping a cocked SA will very often.” [yarddog, post 40]

I’ve yet to learn of a Glock that discharged on being dropped. They are carefully designed and engineered to prevent it. The real problems arise from inept, heedless handling - near as any of us have been able to determine (I worked 14 years for a small-town family-owned dealership, in gun repair, sales, training, and technical support: frequent contact & information interchange with law enforcement agencies at local, state, and federal levels). None of us, nor any of our contacts, discovered the slightest hint that negligent discharges from any Glock could be blamed on any defect of materiel nor deficiency of maintenance.

The nature of trigger movement & required force in a Glock lends users a false sense of security, I suspect. Looks like DA-only, so users subconsciously assume its trigger will be equally resistant to unintentional pulls, or the knocks and scrapes of daily handling. Or mishandling.

In contrast, I have met two individuals in person, who shot themselves while carrying/dropping a Colt (or replica) Single Action. One was dropped; can’t recall the exact details of the other incident. Neither revolver was cocked; no fatalities either, fortunately.

Both users had fully loaded their revolvers with six live rounds; after violating the five-shot rule, they insisted they’d placed the hammer on the tiny “safety notch” that causes the first click one hears when thumbing back a Single Action hammer. This keeps the firing pin off the primer - theoretically.

Neither revolver sustained visible damage; no internal parts had broken or bent. We could only conclude that the loose condition of parts, and the unavoidable springiness of steel, had allowed the hammer to pivot forward and flex sufficiently, to permit the firing pins to indent the primers. The live rounds discharged.


48 posted on 12/26/2018 8:17:06 AM PST by schurmann
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“Thanks but I was thinking of Skelton’s picks....”[yarddog, post 28]

My mistake: got lost in the verbiage. An error of mine becoming more common, I fear. A mind is a terrible thing, really.

It’s occurred to me that quite a few writers for gun magazines of earlier times (before 1980, give or take) lived very active, even colorful lives before publications began paying them to put their thoughts and experiences in print.

Elmer Keith was a cowpuncher, guide, and outfitter; Skeeter Skelton, Bill Jordan, and Charles Askins were lawmen who ranged over some wild & wooly country, surviving encounters with rough characters. More than a few of these guys ranched in remote locations, as a sideline.

Julian Hatcher graduated from Annapolis but switched services to serve through a long career as a US Army officer, first as an artillerist and much of the rest of it in the Small Arms Division of the Ordnance Dept; ultimately rising to the rank of Major General, he spearheaded momentous developments, and participated in some important decisions that profoundly affected the course of American arms design and production.

The field of shooting and outdoor sports has changed a lot, but who does the writing now? Bloggers, mostly. Also some internet content-producers. Not exactly the stuff of legend. There are a few with prior experience in law enforcement and the military.


49 posted on 12/26/2018 9:50:41 AM PST by schurmann
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...Charles Askins...

Had the extreme good fortune of meeting and conversing with Colonel Askins at the SHOT show in the mid '80s.

Probably the most fascinating and enjoyable talk of my lifetime.

One hell of a man!

50 posted on 12/26/2018 10:09:49 PM PST by BikerTrash
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