[a fool in paradise]

Rats have all sorts of legislation they don’t actually want to pass.

While Bush was President Democrats in the House and Senate had bills to bring back the draft. MTV in 2004 was airing “news updates” that Bush was planning to bring back the draft so you’d better vote for John F.T.A. Kerry. The only politicians making such efforts were Democrats.

Even the sponsors of such legislation voted against their own bills.

[ClearCase_guy]

As a MA voter, I feel great shame in the people we elect to serve in Washington.

Ted Kennedy was evil.
John Kerry is evil.
Elizabeth Warren is evil

Markey is just a straight-up idiot. He’s not smart enough to be evil, but he’s dumb enough to do damage.

For an supposedly “smart” state, MA makes a lot of bad political choices.

[SpaceBar]

Mitch McConnell is giving them rope.

[A strike]

Well, let’s see it happen. Otherwise McConnell is just as bad as loser Boehner.

[alloysteel]

Neither the “New Deal” nor the “Green” movements have ever been anything but a front for imposing a command-and-control economy and governing system on the United States.

FDR’s original “New Deal” was in fact a serious crib from the program promoted by Benito Mussolini in Italy during the 1920’s, and the Fascist government of Italy was held to be the model for how the economy of the US might be reorganized, in “fairness” to the working class.

The original intent of the socialist program behind fascism was to harness the wealth generation capability of capitalist investment for the benefit of distribution of the proceeds in larger quantity for the labor force that contributed its efforts to the growth and market penetration of the organized corporations. The corporate entities were to be organized into “syndicates”, a group of cartels each specializing in one segment of the economy, and the purpose of the government was to consolidate and regulate this consolidation until there was one essential leadership council of each of the various segments of the economy. Once this state of nirvana was achieved, the state, as such, would simply wither away, and the oligarchies of each of the syndicates would effectively govern the flow of wealth and the well-being of the denizens under their purview.

The “Greens” have taken the further step of actively promoting government agencies as the “innovators”, and not the capitalistic oligarchies, who would only be “permitted” to join in as the assigned “winners” of the lottery of distribution of largesse from the proceeds of funds from taxation. Those who failed to meet approval of the government “experts” would be mercilessly driven from the marketplace.

Laissez-faire capitalism was to be totally suppressed and denounced as “evil”.

Turns out, any form of command-and-control economics can only continue for so long as the great masses do not become restless, and the usually much smaller number of professional malcontents is ruthlessly suppressed, by imprisonment, exile, or execution of the most recalcitrant.

Police state and socialism are indivisible.

Mao Ze-Dong said it best - “Power grows out of the barrel of a rifle.”

[Old Retired Army Guy]

I predict that if Mc Connell holds that vote a bunch of Democrats will ne absent/out of town.

[Liz]

Thirty braindead Democraps sponsored Sen Markey's bill and assembled to support AOC's laughable rollout of the Green Dream.

Now Mitch McConnell is holding their feet to the fire....calling for a vote.

Prime sponsor, Sen Markey (at right in pic---and other Democrats?), are running for cover......
to avoid casting a vote on AOC’s creepy Green Deal....to turn America into another starving, Third-World socialist/fascist failed state.

Democrats manage to win by lying about their real beliefs and intentions. The gross Green Deal removes their masks, and it is an
incredibly ugly face that greets Americans.....the beginning of the end of the Democrats' savage quest to regain the levers of power.

[Starboard]

the beginning of the end of the Democrat Party’s quest to regain the levers of power in Washington

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Its ironic that the wacky Left with its destructive proposals like the Greeen New Deal makes the GOP look good — by comparison. Without that foil people might actually expect the useless GOP to do something producutive.

[Leep]

Ironic that massive government spending is what is actually destroying America.
And the solution..of course..is even more massive government spending..?
Throw in open borders and multibillion dollar drug trafficking and how does even a great country survive?

[babble-on]

Got to give McConnell some credit on this one. Very clever move.

[Joe 6-pack]

“This would basically result, if we did it on a global level, it would result in the decimation of the human population from 7-odd billion down to who knows how few people.” Oh. Well, gosh, maybe it isn’t such a great idea, then."

This is where many conservatives are unwilling to admit the obvious. This is a great idea for those who wish a drastic reduction in the human population for that exact reason. Many on the right are simply afraid to acknowledge that the left desires just that.

[allendale]

Markey is the “Schizoid of the Senate”.

[chuckee]

Markey who co sponsored the bill in the senate is probably embarrassed now that he will be put up to ridicule if the Senate votes on it. Either he liked the name and did not read it before he sponsored it or he actually read it and believed it. Either way he loses.

[TakeChargeBob]

On the surface this sounds like a clever move but unfortunately we know for sure based on recent experience that this will be worthless and at best gains no benefit.

I believe that there was a vote on something to do with healthcare (perhaps medicare- don’t recall) that McConnell wanted to put the Ds on record for. They called it a show vote and voted present eliminating any talking point. The MSM dutifully reports it as such. Thus the impact that McConnell wanted was not realized at all. A vote on the Green New Deal will have a worse effect. The votes and logic will be the same and the MSM plus some on our side will ridicule McConnell’s vote.

The Green New Deal is not ready for making law and it is an obvious show vote. (Even those on our side who want to embarrass the Ds with this realize it is a show vote.) This proposal is a godsend to us. (Caveat if it is effective to gain public support for the Ds we are doomed as a country.) We do not need to play obvious politics and weaken our hand. When the Ds are self destructing leave them alone. The way to get people on the record is to ask them during the campaign about the Green New Deal. Also we need to bring this up in every race. Especially for the D reps in conservative districts where even if they do not support the Green New Deal we can run against the radical D leadership.

[Ancesthntr]

Not the main topic of this thread, but WRT this quote from the subject article:

“Like American Gestapo Chief, er, “Special Counsel” Robert Mueller,...”

Perhaps David Blackmon could explore whether there is any relation between ours and theirs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_M%C3%BCller_(Gestapo)

Bobby M needs to constantly be referred to by our side as “Gestapo Mueller.” Go full Alinsky on the corrupt SOB, and don’t let up until he blows a fuse.

[NormsRevenge]

Just don’t build any wind farms off the coast of his state, OK?