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1 posted on 08/15/2019 4:51:52 AM PDT by EyesOfTX
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To break bones you need blunt force trauma.

No way to achieve those force requirements in that cell alone.


2 posted on 08/15/2019 4:56:16 AM PDT by Eddie01
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well, I would look for big deposits in the “we didn’t check on him” prison guards’ bank accounts


3 posted on 08/15/2019 4:58:23 AM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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The only other bones in the neck are the cervical vertebrae. In order to fracture those it takes a significant drop in a hanging and is unusual in suicide.

Suicides tend to die from simple asphyxiation, judicial hangings from injury to the spinal cord when the C2 fractures and dislocates (Hangmans Fracture).

Supposedly Epstein just leaned forward and cut his oxygen off with the sheet.
No way he fractures a vertebrae that way.


4 posted on 08/15/2019 5:02:45 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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once a news agency has willingly turned itself into a government lapdog

The government is the administration we elected when we chose DJT as president. They are not a government lapdog. They are a deepster #Resist lapdog.,

5 posted on 08/15/2019 5:03:52 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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The Epstein death has demonstrated: a) that AG Barr is incompetent and in way over his head; or, b) that AG Barr is a member in good standing of the Swamp.

Neither result is particularly encouraging.


6 posted on 08/15/2019 5:06:23 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Hey, Rocky--Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!)
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Those who lived through the Clinton reign of terror will never believe this was a “suicide.”
And we have zero faith in anything our government tells us because they lie to us most of the time.


9 posted on 08/15/2019 5:14:27 AM PDT by txrefugee
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I am sure the “Deep State” can round up thousands of medical experts to testify this is normal for a hanging with a bed sheet.

Easy peasy.


20 posted on 08/15/2019 5:28:52 AM PDT by cgbg (Democracy dies in darkness when Bezos bans books.)
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'The case just isn’t cooperating with the whole “suicide” narrative.'

When TRUTH discombobulates their official newspeak narrative, the Ministry of Truth usually jumps to ad hominem attacks and other fallacies of logic.

22 posted on 08/15/2019 5:36:58 AM PDT by Savage Beast (When the Light of Truth threatens to expose corruption, it's the corrupt who try to extinguish it.)
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Could he have dived off the top bunk?


23 posted on 08/15/2019 5:37:23 AM PDT by FXRP (Cogito, ergo Spam!)
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I don’t know about broken bones, but I know firsthand that you can “hang” yourself without your feet ever leaving the floor. It only takes 15-30 seconds to cut off the blood supply and pass out with your feet still touching the floor. How do you think people accidentally kill themselves by erotica-asphyxiation?


24 posted on 08/15/2019 5:41:25 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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As good as the argument is laid out here, we don’t have any of this official information.

So to conclude anything at this point is premature. Wait, until the full details are released.

Then let the analysis follow the evidence.


27 posted on 08/15/2019 5:58:06 AM PDT by romanesq (MAGA Coalition sues QAnon & will expose the QAnon grifters!)
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Gee, the massively muscled ex-cop drug murderer cellmate could easily have done that. But, they claim they moved him out the night before Epstein killed himself.

Timing is everything.


29 posted on 08/15/2019 5:59:50 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Break my neck once... shame on me.

Break my neck several times... shame on you.


31 posted on 08/15/2019 6:00:49 AM PDT by Safrguns
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I listen to the Forensic Files most evenings on my daily commute.

Interestingly enough there was a guy who strangled his wife to death and tried to make it look like she was choked to death by a rope.

The Hypoid bone was broken which proved that a thumb had been used to quiet her while he strangled her. Jeffery's Hypoid bone was broken too.

36 posted on 08/15/2019 6:16:40 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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Either way.

Even IF Epstein committed suicide (which I doubt), a lot of people worked bloody hard to give him the opportunity to do so in private.

1. Epstein’s lawyers petitioned to have him removed from suicide watch.
2. Despite his previous “attempt” at suicide, Epstein was removed from suicide watch.
3. The jail removed Epstein’s cellmate (would have been really strange having TWO suicides in the same cell, eh?).
4. The guards skipped their welfare checks on Epstein.
5. The CCTV cameras covering Epstein’s cell area “just happened” to fail or be disabled at the time of his death. (Funny how that seems to happen so much these days.)

We are waaaay past “accident” and “coincidence” and well into “enemy action” territory here.


41 posted on 08/15/2019 6:31:30 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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The celly, in the cell before removing to another place, with his hands.


42 posted on 08/15/2019 6:32:13 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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45 posted on 08/15/2019 6:39:28 AM PDT by red-dawg (Climate change caused the end of the Ice Age. Did man play a part in it?)
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Apparently the MCC has an extremely low rate of sucessful suicides.

They’ve had just one suicide death in 40 years.

Oh no wait, better make that two.


46 posted on 08/15/2019 6:46:01 AM PDT by agere_contra (Please pray for Pope Benedict XVI)
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If multiple CSI shows are even close ...oh yeah, discussions with EMT and other real first responder types, among others, three main neck/strangulation pictures are

hanging, no drop compressing ligature. death is by asphyxiation, ligature marks are bruising along the line toward the anchor point, and the hyoid bone may or may not be broken.

Hanging, with drop, compressing ligature or large knot (old school hangman’s noose). Death is caused by a combination of asphyxiation and dislocation/separation of the cervical spine when the drop causes violent angling against a fulcrum (the rope) of the head out of line with the spinal column. Ligatures follow the line to the focal point of the loop with fracturing taking place on a plane described by the anchor to knot through to the opposite end of the loop. Hyoid bond is usually crushed and the topmost cervical vertebrae aer dislocated/separated from the skull.

Rear manual strangulation with lateral pressure. Rear naked choke as seen in MMA fight with additional pressure from the rear and side. Cause of death is similar to hang with drop as similar forces are applied, but the breakage/separation of cervical vertebrae generally occurs lower on the spinal column.

That it is taking this long for an autopsy....sketchy. All the rest of it.....sketchy. Warren commission sketchy.

KYPD


76 posted on 08/15/2019 8:09:10 AM PDT by petro45acp (CHAOS TO THE ENEMY!!! It is part of daily prayer now....every bit helps to get America back.)
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bkmk


77 posted on 08/15/2019 8:09:39 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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