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2 Million 9mm Pistols Born In 2018 As Gun Production Numbers Grow
guns.com ^ | August 23, 2019 | Chris Eger

Posted on 08/24/2019 4:22:20 PM PDT by PROCON

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To: PROCON

I love my 1911 but it’s not as convenient to carry as .380’s or some 9mm’s.


81 posted on 08/25/2019 3:59:40 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: yarddog; NorthMountain
Oh, just trolling away on a sunny Saturday afternoon...after my range time with my stainless Colt 80 Series Model 'O' in 45ACP.


82 posted on 08/25/2019 5:46:07 AM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: yarddog
Oh I still think the 1911 is a fine gun. I would be perfectly content to use one for the rest of my life. I would get 8 round mags tho.

After all is said and done the high quality, high capacity 9’s are better.

Actually if I had to choose just one gun and was not concerned with price, it would be a Glock full size in 10mm or maybe a Sig P210 in the same caliber.


I shot my sister's M&P a while ago and didn't like the snappy recoil and the way it tries to twist out of my hand on every shot. It was not a great experience. It does fit her hand better than mine though.

If I ever shoot another 9mm again, it would probably be a 1911 size frame. The 1911 layout just fits into my palm and fingers very well. I just have 'average guy size' hands.
83 posted on 08/25/2019 5:52:51 AM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: Cobra64

Correct Saive helped, which is what my post said


84 posted on 08/25/2019 7:05:48 AM PDT by Jeff Vader
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To: 867V309; Rio; yarddog

The SCCY is essentially an unlicensed knock-off of the Kel-Tec P11, made by a company that was reportedly started by a former Kel-Tec employee...


85 posted on 08/25/2019 7:10:53 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike.")
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To: PROCON

6 rounds of .44 magnum and a speed loader is all I need, you sissies!


86 posted on 08/25/2019 7:20:46 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: This_Dude
.45 ACP is a dinosaur round and those who tout it’s superiority over 9mm are ballistically illiterate.

Not at all - there are just several different approaches available, to solving the same problem. Specifically, a big, slow projectile can work as effectively as a small, fast projectile.

When John A. Dahlgren was designing artillery for the U.S. Navy, he covered both of those bases, with his famous 15 inch gun (firing a heavy projectile at low velocity) as well as his never-adopted 10 inch, 130 pounder (firing a smaller & lighter projectile at a higher velocity). You can view those two as the practical equivalents of .45ACP and 9x19mm in handguns. Interestingly enough, Admiral Dahlgren also designed a 13 inch gun, splitting the difference in both projectile weight and velocity. A 'pistolero' might picture the 13 inch as the .40S&W equivalent. All three Dahlgren designs worked: the Navy adopted the 15 inch, probably in part because it was less dependent on projectile performance than the high-velocity gun, and therefore more reliable.

And that last point is just as applicable today, as it was 150 years ago. If your small-caliber, high-velocity rifle or handgun cartridge depends on bullet expansion for adequate performance, you've just added another variable to system performance. Someone who chooses to eliminate that variable by using a large-caliber, low-velocity cartridge (or something in between) is simply choosing a different solution, and not "ballistically illiterate"...

87 posted on 08/25/2019 8:47:59 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike.")
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To: Who is John Galt?


The SCCY is essentially an unlicensed knock-off...

no reason to reinvent the wheel.


88 posted on 08/25/2019 10:55:57 AM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 867V309
no reason to reinvent the wheel.

Pretty much my attitude. SCCY (which was originally named SKYY) apparently attempted to 'improve' the basic Kel-Tec design, by adding an external safety, different frame colors, etc. So, give SCCY credit for their 'improvements' (if any), but give George Kelgren and Kel-Tec credit for the original design.

As the old adage says, "imitation is the highest compliment"...

89 posted on 08/25/2019 11:13:42 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike.")
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To: Who is John Galt?


As the old adage says, "imitation is the highest compliment"... As the old adage says, "imitation is the highest compliment"...

...now if they'd just imitate the sub 2K...


90 posted on 08/25/2019 11:22:54 AM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: SIDENET

I’ve made a 80% AR with the Ghost Gunner 2 and like it. Never have done a 80% handgun but need or want to give it a try . If ya have time FReepmail me with your progress, process and tips, pro / con . Made a decision a few years back to stay with the Glock 19 as my CCW rig (muscle memory) and have ran probably 10,000 rounds in practice and training. Recently went with the Generation 5 MOS with the Trijicon RMR2, a Zev trigger, Tall trijicon tritium 3 dot suppressor sights co-witnessed. Very very fast target acquisition and accurate. Took it to a few training / refresher courses, some 3 Gun and IDPA shoots and very pleased with the setup.


91 posted on 08/25/2019 11:57:27 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: smokingfrog

LMAO !


92 posted on 08/25/2019 12:00:20 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: smokingfrog

>>>6 rounds of .44 magnum and a speed loader is all I need, you sissies!<<<

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93 posted on 08/25/2019 12:19:35 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Commie is a dead Commie. Cast your Ballot Accordingly.)
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To: TMN78247

I am about 20 miles south of the KY border in SW Va. Having grown up in the DFW area of Texas, the shows in this area are tiny and infrequent (one or two a year) by comparison. Driving to Richmond/DC or Knoxville/Nashville are not an option for me.


94 posted on 08/26/2019 10:04:02 AM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: Squantos

You bet, Squantos. I will be happy to let yo know how it turns out.


95 posted on 08/26/2019 6:33:49 PM PDT by SIDENET
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To: TMN78247

My wife tried shooting a Smith bodyguard. Too much blowback. She is much more comfortable with a Glock 19 9mm. I like it but am more happy with my Taurus public defender in .45 long colt/.410. I carry the Smith bodyguard because it fits in the back pocket and looks like a wallet.


96 posted on 08/26/2019 6:42:28 PM PDT by Texas resident (Democrats=Enemy of People of The United States of America)
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To: Texas resident
To quote my grandfather, "Differing opinions are what causes horseraces." That said, I saw the results of a Glock coming apart while being fired on "my range" (I was the Army Rangemaster that day.) at Ft Meade, MD. (I was at that instant about 300M away & trying to help a new shooter from the DEARNG get over her aversion to & fear of shooting a pistol. ===> servicemember cannot be a Mike Papa, including being a female/PFC desk clerk, unless/until you can legitimately qualify with your issued handgun.) A man in a suit" came running up to me & screamed, "Do you have a first aid kit? There's been an accident & he's bleeding BAD, BAD." I thereupon called our EMT/Paramedic unit & directed them to the firing point where the accident occurred. About 5 minutes later, the medical unit called my NCOIC & informed MSG Terrill that the unit was proceeding to the post hospital's ER. (Turning the range over to a Captain, MSG Terrill, my driver & I left the area for the. hospital.) Upon arrival, we talked with the RN/NP on the ER's front desk & were informed that the victim was being treated for a fairly extensive wound to the right cheek & for a "foreign object that is imbedded in his eye.

A facial surgeon is enroute to our location & then likely the victim will be taken up to MED-SURG for further treatment. - That's all that I can tell you now." Later that afternoon, we returned to the PMO & found a representative from the USPS awaiting our return to the office. -- The gentleman introduced himself as a Senior Postal Inspector & stated that he was there to answer any questions that the PMO & Post CG needed to know. During the ad hoc meeting the SI stated that the victim was a serving Postal Inspector, who was firing for qualification with standard velocity government issue JHP 9x19mm ammo & with his issued Glock handgun at the time of the incident. Agent B________________ stated that he had not been on the range but would get PI who WERE present & observed the accident would be made available later that evening or the next morning. (Other than reading/signing/forwarding the required Incident Reports to the Post's CG, I had no further direct contact with or input to the investigation of the incident.) I later learned that the Glock literally came apart & that the slide had struck the victim in the face & eye, tearing his cheek open & imbedding a part for the pistol in the eye socket. As a result of that "unfortunate accident", I wouldn't have a Glock if they were giving them away.. Note: I've carried a Sig-Sauer P225, loaded with 115 grain JHP, 7/365 for over 15 years & am PLEASED with its accuracy/reliability/concealability under even a Summer golf shirt. Yours, TMN78247

97 posted on 08/27/2019 1:12:59 AM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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