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To: Rockingham

Modern Chinese rulers and f rule are directly descendant from and identical to- with new technology and atomic bombs- the Middle Kingdom as it existed and operated from BC on. I always thought that Mao was a radical break with the past. Then I started reading a lot of Chinese history. Some emperors were nice guys, some were monsters but all controlled their societies minutely beheading mandarins, generals and common people for minute infractions or because they were believed about to commit infractions.


18 posted on 08/28/2019 6:20:50 AM PDT by arthurus (de c -8lax bxx)
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To: arthurus

[I always thought that Mao was a radical break with the past. Then I started reading a lot of Chinese history. Some emperors were nice guys, some were monsters but all controlled their societies minutely beheading mandarins, generals and common people for minute infractions or because they were believed about to commit infractions.]


Richard Pipes once pointed out that the problem with the Soviet Union wasn’t that they were Communists, but that they were Russian. The issue with being Russian wasn’t the bullshit Democratic issue of “election meddling”, but a world-conquering mindset - a thirst to add provinces/oblasts until the world stands united under Russian rule. The same issue applies to the Chinese, whether they were ruled by emperors, Nationalists or Communists.

I used to think of Chinese Communism as a bane to the world. Now I think of it as an excellent obstacle to Chinese ambitions. The Communists have found a way to perpetuate the reigns of the emperors under their own banner. Fortunately for the rest of the world, that style of governance incorporates the very weaknesses that allowed nations from the other side of the world, whose forebears were savages when the Chinese were civilized, to kick the Chinese sovereign’s teeth in. So long as China is ruled by emperors like Xi Jinping, it will never rule the world. And not for lack of trying.


21 posted on 08/28/2019 3:16:46 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: arthurus

Such a method of rule works all too well. Since America’s founding, we have been the essential embodiment and defender of the democratic and humane ideals of Western civilization. The US and China now seem to be at odds over a set of trade issues, but in truth, we are in a civilizational struggle as momentous as WW II and the Cold War.


23 posted on 08/29/2019 1:18:24 AM PDT by Rockingham
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