well, Haenel does have the most assault rifle experience there is
Posted on 09/08/2019 5:05:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Take a look and decide.
But while Germany may produce its own AR-15s, the hotbed of innovation for the rifle is still the United States. Products such as RadianWeapons ’s ADAC lower receiver are known among European sport shooters for being fast and innovative, and Germany has yet to produce similar refinements on their own.
Mention a German take on an AR-15, and most people will imagine the HK416. However, many other German manufacturers have made their own take on the AR platform, from simple clones made by Oberland Arms to Haenel, which makes another variant of the piston-driven AR rifle.
But why would German companies want to make yet another take on the AR as opposed to their own rifle?
The simplest reason is that the German civilian shooting community wants AR-15s of their own. American ITAR regulations prevent most foreign customers from buying American-made AR-15s, or force them to buy them at a significant markup, so German companies stepped in to fill the void.
Oberland Arms, Schmeisser, Hera Arms, and DAR are all German sporting rifle companies that make variants of the AR-15. Most of them were founded relatively recently, some as recent as 2008. While some rifles produced by these firms are relatively vanilla, such as the “Black Label” Oberland Arms offerings, which resemble early M4 Carbines, other firms produce rifles with free-float rails similar to the latest competition and combat rifles.
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At one time I had two Colt H-Bars. They came with .22LR conversion kits. They were beautifully made and sweet shooting. Also extremely accurate.
I have owned several HK’s. I would say that quality is about the same. Both being excellent.
I’ve owned a Mercedes-Benz. The Germans over-engineer everything.
“The Germans over-engineer everything”
In the darkest days of WWII they were stamping 2 digits of the serial number on little machine screws on 98 Mausers.
I guess that was so one didn’t get confused with the billion other exact same interchangeable screws.
well, Haenel does have the most assault rifle experience there is
HKs are quite heavy.
The design is good but we invented the AR.
didn’t get confused with the billion other exact same interchangeable screws.
= = =
That would be with the billion divided by 100 other same screws, right?
Reminds me I have a 22 conversion kit for an HK G3/91 for sale if anyone is interested
I’m struggling now with whether to keep using my R4 (South Africa version of Galil), or fork over ten bucks to buy credits to get the 416........
in Ghost Recon Wildlands
:-)
“...the German civilian shooting community wants AR-15s of their own...”
With the 2 round magazine the government allows them.
I care about which factory makes the best AR-15 like I care about whether Thunderbird or Mad Dog 20/20 is better.
I care about which factory makes the best AR-15 like I care about whether Thunderbird or Mad Dog 20/20 is better.
I wondered if the .22 LR would be inaccurate as the 1 in 7 twist was way faster than standard for .22 LR barrels. It did not seem to hurt it at all. Still extremely accurate.
During the ‘83 war in Beirut I bought an HK which the unit Armory carried around.
Our M-16s were surplus Vietnam era and not in anything like new condition, but it was our 45s which I carried that were so worn out. Late in ‘84 our battalion finally got new weapons (although I preferred the Colt as old and sloppy as it had gotten over the Browning which replaced it) and the unit Armory stopped hauling personal weapons on short deployments.
I don’t buy anything German. I think they are stupid. Look at their laws and moronic immigration. Therefore the USA AR must be better
I don’t buy anything German. I think they are stupid. Look at their laws and moronic immigration. Therefore the USA AR must be better
Plus... When was he last war that the Germans ever won? /s
I guess that was so one didn’t get confused with the billion other exact same interchangeable screws.
No, it was so they could identify which lots of rifles contained particular lots of screws. If they found of a bad lot of screws, they could tie the screws to the rifles containing them. Physically, and not just with paper records.
As of two years ago, EAG Tactical's "Filthy 14," the most famous AR in existence, had a round count of 67,500 since new and has never been "fully" cleaned, only the occasional touch-up as driven by circumstance. The entire German nation would die of apoplexy at the thought of one of their vaunted HKs remaining in use that long without at least two trips to depot maintenance and one run through the magnaflux of all the reciprocating parts.
https://www.slip2000.com/blog/s-w-a-t-magazine-filthy-14/
https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/filthy-14-update.173677/
I had a couple of bad screws in my life.
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