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Germany vs. America: Who Makes the Better AR-15 Rifle?
The National Interest ^ | September 8, 2019 | Charlie Gao

Posted on 09/08/2019 5:05:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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1 posted on 09/08/2019 5:05:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

At one time I had two Colt H-Bars. They came with .22LR conversion kits. They were beautifully made and sweet shooting. Also extremely accurate.

I have owned several HK’s. I would say that quality is about the same. Both being excellent.


2 posted on 09/08/2019 5:13:32 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’ve owned a Mercedes-Benz. The Germans over-engineer everything.


3 posted on 09/08/2019 5:21:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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“The Germans over-engineer everything”

In the darkest days of WWII they were stamping 2 digits of the serial number on little machine screws on 98 Mausers.

I guess that was so one didn’t get confused with the billion other exact same interchangeable screws.


4 posted on 09/08/2019 5:28:49 PM PDT by Clay Moore (You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.)
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well, Haenel does have the most assault rifle experience there is
5 posted on 09/08/2019 5:30:28 PM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors, and come heavily armed!)
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To: yarddog

HKs are quite heavy.

The design is good but we invented the AR.


6 posted on 09/08/2019 5:40:16 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Clay Moore

didn’t get confused with the billion other exact same interchangeable screws.
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That would be with the billion divided by 100 other same screws, right?


7 posted on 09/08/2019 5:40:21 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM, maybe more so!)
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To: yarddog

Reminds me I have a 22 conversion kit for an HK G3/91 for sale if anyone is interested


8 posted on 09/08/2019 5:50:46 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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I’m struggling now with whether to keep using my R4 (South Africa version of Galil), or fork over ten bucks to buy credits to get the 416........

in Ghost Recon Wildlands

:-)


9 posted on 09/08/2019 5:57:17 PM PDT by Sapwolf (Talkers are usually more articulate than doers, since talk is their specialty. -Sowell)
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“...the German civilian shooting community wants AR-15s of their own...”

With the 2 round magazine the government allows them.


10 posted on 09/08/2019 6:00:55 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus mane)
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I care about which factory makes the best AR-15 like I care about whether Thunderbird or Mad Dog 20/20 is better.


11 posted on 09/08/2019 6:01:57 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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I care about which factory makes the best AR-15 like I care about whether Thunderbird or Mad Dog 20/20 is better.


12 posted on 09/08/2019 6:01:58 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: mylife

I wondered if the .22 LR would be inaccurate as the 1 in 7 twist was way faster than standard for .22 LR barrels. It did not seem to hurt it at all. Still extremely accurate.


13 posted on 09/08/2019 6:08:13 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: mylife

During the ‘83 war in Beirut I bought an HK which the unit Armory carried around.

Our M-16s were surplus Vietnam era and not in anything like new condition, but it was our 45s which I carried that were so worn out. Late in ‘84 our battalion finally got new weapons (although I preferred the Colt as old and sloppy as it had gotten over the Browning which replaced it) and the unit Armory stopped hauling personal weapons on short deployments.


14 posted on 09/08/2019 6:08:24 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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I don’t buy anything German. I think they are stupid. Look at their laws and moronic immigration. Therefore the USA AR must be better


15 posted on 09/08/2019 6:21:23 PM PDT by inchworm
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I don’t buy anything German. I think they are stupid. Look at their laws and moronic immigration. Therefore the USA AR must be better


16 posted on 09/08/2019 6:21:25 PM PDT by inchworm
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" Look at their laws and moronic immigration."

Plus... When was he last war that the Germans ever won? /s

17 posted on 09/08/2019 6:33:29 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: Clay Moore
In the darkest days of WWII they were stamping 2 digits of the serial number on little machine screws on 98 Mausers.

I guess that was so one didn’t get confused with the billion other exact same interchangeable screws.

No, it was so they could identify which lots of rifles contained particular lots of screws. If they found of a bad lot of screws, they could tie the screws to the rifles containing them. Physically, and not just with paper records.

18 posted on 09/08/2019 6:45:27 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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The AR-180 survives as proof that if the AR-15 had needed an OpRod gas system, Stoner would have given it one.

As of two years ago, EAG Tactical's "Filthy 14," the most famous AR in existence, had a round count of 67,500 since new and has never been "fully" cleaned, only the occasional touch-up as driven by circumstance. The entire German nation would die of apoplexy at the thought of one of their vaunted HKs remaining in use that long without at least two trips to depot maintenance and one run through the magnaflux of all the reciprocating parts.


https://www.slip2000.com/blog/s-w-a-t-magazine-filthy-14/

https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/filthy-14-update.173677/

19 posted on 09/08/2019 6:56:03 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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I had a couple of bad screws in my life.


20 posted on 09/08/2019 7:28:18 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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