Posted on 09/14/2019 8:05:19 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
“Let’s cut the crap. He was everybody’s favorite here at this site for the longest time.”
Please speak for yourself.
He was never Secretary of State.
He did an OK job as Ambassador to the UN.
I always thought he was too much of a war monger.
Remember all the wars that Bolton got us into? Me neither.
Speak for yourself.
John Bolton was always Mister Tough Guy, with a 1974 hairdo at age 60something.
It just took POTUS DJT to give him the right alias.
Well said, I agree!
I always thought he was too much of a war monger.
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Exactly.
Globalist warmonger wanting to be the world’s police.
The Bolton problem IMHO is due to the fact we have forgotten what war is. We have accepted substitutes. Violent conflict with limited goals is NOT “War”. War is when you aggressively seize your enemy’s capitol, execute all his leaders and obliterate any opposition and allow the widows and orphans to beseech you for mercy, and if the beg nicely enough you may even hang around long enough they don’t starve through he next winter. Unless their land was a goal and then just kill them all.
That is War and when War is called for there is no substitute. Violence with limited goals just leads to “forever war” as we have seen or alternatively to wars we just walk away from like Viet Nam.
I wouldn’t send one American to support Maduro’s Socialist opposition. Thank God Trump hasn’t been suckered into doing so.
No, he wasn't. He's been a giant "red flag" for me ever since the late 1990s when he was signing open letters in the New York Times calling for the Clinton administration to topple the Milosevic government in Serbia on behalf of the radical Islamic separatists in Kosovo.
I have probably posted over 100 replies on various threads just since Election Day of 2016, when his name first came up as a potential senior cabinet nominee in the new Trump administration.
Those of us who are conservatives instead of Republicans have recognized him as a war-mongering globalist pr!ck for years.
The trouble with hiring former presidential candidates to work for the White House is it makes them think they ARE the president.
I used to like Bolton, but you have to admit, he’s a little “off”.
Trump wanted him gone, so I’m okay with it.
Trust Trump, I do 100%.
George Bush was never popular here (raybbr land). I only believed he was better than Gore and Kerry.
Circle-jerks of ideological agreement generate major bad decisions.
This is what happens when you take a bunch of ‘get it done’ over-achievers on a hot air balloon ride. Hot air can only carry ya so far.
Sometimes a hole forms in the basket and somebody falls out. Could be ‘climate change’. ‘-}
50 years later we are still realizing the problems with what you suggest in Korea. I understand you are trying to think of answers but that ain’t a good one.
In the aftermath of 9-11, many of us became armchair warriors celebrating the hawks and their stance on Al Qaeda, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Hindsight is 20-20 and we have learned the fallacy of Neocon nation building. Let’s celebrate Bolton’s patriotism and service but condemn his policies.
“I believe that those two wars moved much of conservatism in a a new direction - if not isolationist, at least much more cautious about launching major new military campaigns (otherwise known as wars). Bolton did not seem to have learned that lesson, and that’s why people here turned on him.”
Yes, that and the turn against free trade are sea changes in American Politics.
The final piece is that we finally had someone to vote for. For 30 years we really didn’t have much of a choice. Heads we win tails you lose.
Trump broke that paradigm for good.
I liked Bolton, I liked his aggressiveness. What I didn’t like was the depths of his strategic thinking. He had none. This clearly became evident when he suggested more overt military action when we are up or about at our max in the middle east
Your approach seems practical when it comes to just about every war the U.S. has been involved in since 1945. The problem is that there is an underlying reality here that nobody wants to admit: These were not "wars" the U.S. waged to protect ourselves. Instead, they involved the U.S. taking one (or more) sides in what was basically another country's civil war.
I wouldn't trust the United Nations to do that sh!t well any more than I trust the U.S. to do it at all. Keep in mind that my rationale for this is simple: The U.S. didn't get involved in these wars to defend ourselves, but because corporate interests, foreign governments, and factions within these countries lobbied our own government to take sides in those conflicts.
If this sounds outlandish, just ask yourself why the Saudi royal family would make a seven-figure donation to the John McCain Leadership Institute at Arizona State University.
It was irksome to see Bolton looking "down" at Trump in these photos,
lying in wait, plotting to visit his stupid neocon agenda on Trump....
like using the US military to spread democracy in the ****holes of the Mideast.
Trump wasn't buying. Trump kindly called them "mistakes."
Bolton is a tool of the God-awful neocons. How he managed to slither into the Trump admin should be investigated.
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