Posted on 10/03/2019 1:13:02 PM PDT by Red Badger
Here’s a subject that no Democratic lawmakers will touch right now. The thinking is: Pence is implicated in Trump’s campaign to pressure Ukraine to reopen their investigation into Joe Biden and Hunter Biden. Although Pence never mentioned Biden’s name to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, he was after all, involved in communicating the delay of the U.S. aid and at the request of President Trump, he skipped Zelensky’s inauguration. Shouldn’t Pence be impeached too? A rather low bar for impeachment to be sure, but that’s all they’ve got right now.
The media, on the other hand, has no such reservations. The last few days have seen a couple of Washington Post articles arguing for Pence’s impeachment, a story in the Associated Press and a handful of others.
In the video below, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews speaks to Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE). Matthews asks: “The Vice President now according to reporting as of tonight seems to have engaged in the same thing Trump was engaged in which is basically shaking down a foreign leader to get dirt on a political opponent, the candidate you’re supporting, Joe Biden. Shouldn’t he be the subject of an impeachment inquiry as well at this point?”
Coons, a bit taken aback, replies, “Well, at this point, look Chris, I think it’s important that we focus on the facts here. The facts are that we tie –”
Matthews, not hearing what he wants to hear, abruptly cuts him off and says, “I’m talking the facts. I realize [Trump has] got William Barr, the Attorney General in cahoots with him. He’s got Secretary of State, Pompeo, in cahoots with him. Now, he’s got the Vice President dragged into this cabal.”
The video then shows him speaking to Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA). “You know, if possible, if it comes to a Senate trial, and it may well by the end of this year where you’ll be a juror in that trial for removal of the President from office after he’s impeached, if that develops as the history of this year, you’re going to a Vice President of the United States who would take the presidency after having been involved personally in the cabal that we’d be impeaching the President for. How does that make sense historically? If Pence was part of this how could he survive as president when Trump goes?”
Kamala does not muster a tremendous amount of enthusiasm over the idea.
Last night, the Washington Post channeled Matthews and published a lengthy piece enumerating Pence’s interactions with Zelensky. It reads like a primer on the anatomy of a political smear. Here are some excerpts:
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The president used Pence to tell Zelensky that U.S. aid was still being withheld while demanding more aggressive action on corruption, officials said. At that time — following Trump’s July 25 phone call with Zelenksy — the Ukrainians probably understood action on corruption to include the investigation of former vice president Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden.
Officials close to Pence insist that he was unaware of Trump’s efforts to press Zelensky for damaging information about Biden and his son, who had served on the board of an obscure Ukrainian gas company, when his father was overseeing U.S. policy on Ukraine.
Pence’s activities occurred amid several indications of the president’s hidden agenda. Among them were the abrupt removal of the U.S. ambassador to Kiev; the visible efforts by the president’s lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, to insert himself in the U.S.-Ukraine relationship; as well as alarms being raised inside the White House even before the emergence of an extraordinary whistleblower complaint about Trump’s conduct.
Perhaps most significantly, one of Pence’s top advisers [national security advisor Keith Kellogg] was on the July 25 call and the vice president should have had access to the transcript within hours, officials said.
The authors do at least acknowledge that Kellogg found nothing unusual about the call, nor did he “flag any concerns” to Pence.
Democrats will find a way to interpret anything involving Trump in the most negative way possible which is what they are doing here. The impeachment of both Trump and Pence would set the stage for a President Pelosi, a dream come true for war weary Democrats.
Why is this idea starting to gain traction among the left leaning press, yet no one in Congress appears to want to talk about it?
For one thing, the optics would be bad for them. Maybe they realize they’ve already grossly overstepped by basing their case for Trump’s impeachment on a routine phone call.
Hot Air’s Allapundit has a theory and it goes like this. President Trump, along with many Republicans, myself included, see the Democrats impeachment inquiry as another coup attempt. The thinking is, that if lawmakers call for Pence to be impeached along with Trump, it’s the same as saying that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi should be President.
Now that would truly seem like a coup. Actually, it would be a coup. In fact, it’s already a coup.
Pissy Mathews is bat shit crazy.
President Pelosi waiting in the wings...
NOT going to happen.
It means a hot civil war.
Exactly.....
This is up there with Maddow’s fantasy that somehow the election would be overturned because of the Russia crap and Hillary would be installed as President for some reason.
Dems need to push this HARD!
Let the world see that this really is a putsch.
Shep, Nappy, and Cavuto think the same thing
All bitches
The plan is to tie up Trump and all the major cabinet officers so they can not conduct business. In other words, a coup.
Anyone still think that this isn’t a coup attempt?
Dems will work this thing in stages and sure they would go for president Pelosi as holding spot-they have three big advantages in all this-1) mainstream media , 2) large minority block voting w growing hispanic population 3) Dems march in lock step-they don’t criticize each other like conservatives or GOP does-just look at some of the circular firing squad comments on here on George P Bush, Lindsey Graham etc
It would be as easy for trump to get a new vp as it was for nixon. It would have to be a senator to stall the trial in the senate, so it would be McConnell or one hand picked by McConnell.
A’yup, and it also means a bad time to be a member of the Marxist Media.
And these people think we’re just going to sit around at watch that happen?
Yes, we have no bananas........................
+1
5.56mm
The yahoos shout “Impeach! Impeach! Impeach!” as they throw excrement in all directions. Does anyone pay any attention to these clowns?
but all the’ve had is stinking maggot’ee bread!
These guys are just plain nuts.
They can’t even get over the delusion that they can impeach Trump long enough to figure out how they are going to magically get rid of Pence too.
No just cause, no real evidence, no due process... just name them and void them. Pure fantasy land
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