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Long Range Shooting & the Coriolis Effect
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 12/2/2019 | J Winters

Posted on 12/02/2019 5:17:30 AM PST by w1n1

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To: w1n1

Hold high to the West and hold low to the East, got it.(sarc.)


21 posted on 12/02/2019 5:59:47 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Clutch Martin

The calculation you cite assumes the shot being fired and the earth rotation being independent of the trajectory. Not the case. Drive down the highway and toss a tennis ball up 6” and catch it. The ball traveled about 30 yards.

I would think the centrifugal affect of the earths rotation would be more relevant. But with a 3 to 5 second flight time max, the impact would likely be irrelevant and/or too small to calculate considering the effects of wind, elevation, spin drift, temperature variations, altitude, humidity levels, etc.


22 posted on 12/02/2019 6:03:49 AM PST by Tenacious 1
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To: House Atreides; DesertRhino

The longer a projectile, any projectile, is in the air, the more likely planetary rotation comes into play. Field Artillerymen and mortar gunners understand this with “high angle” fire, where you are positioning your firing tube at angles above 45 degrees (800 mils) elevation. (usually to fire over an obstacle, such as a hill or mountain.

As time of flight increases, the more the movement of the Earth during flight impacts where your round will strike. Non-guided weapons have to aim where the target will be, so manufacturers provide tables that allow fire direction centers to account for planetary movement during flight over given ranges and times of flight. Additionally, we also have to account for wind speed, temperture, air pressure, target elevation differences, and other factors to hit something from far away.

The effect is real, and has been understood for decades by those of us who throw projectiles through the air for a living.


23 posted on 12/02/2019 6:10:13 AM PST by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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To: real saxophonist; Gamecock; SaveFerris; PROCON

George Costanza: It’s simple physics. Calculate the velocity, V, in relation to the trajectory, T, in which G, gravity, of course, remains a constant. Unless you’re the AM Shooter blogger, in which case you can plagiarize anything you like and slap it on your blog.


24 posted on 12/02/2019 6:11:05 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: rawcatslyentist

Also remember that every atom in your thumbnail could be an entire universe.


25 posted on 12/02/2019 6:12:00 AM PST by CrazyIvan (The Democrat party. A collaboration of Cloward-Piven and Dunning-Kruger.)
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To: Manly Warrior

600 yard one shot hits aren’t that hard. Somewhere around 850 is where it starts to be difficult.

The various long range shooting apps do have a correction for coriolis effect, so it exists. Wind is a far greater factor.


26 posted on 12/02/2019 6:17:13 AM PST by nobamanomore
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To: w1n1

I’m not into long range shooting, but I can admire it.
My very best shot ever was about 18 months ago.
I shot a cotton mouth water moccasin through the head at 40 yards, in the dark (~11PM), with my daughter illuminating it with a 2 AA cell flashlight and it was the very first shot.
I’ll never be able to duplicate that shot again, because that was just pure luck.


27 posted on 12/02/2019 6:25:47 AM PST by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To: w1n1

I think the hardest part would be getting your target to line up exactly east or exactly west! north or south a few degrees would change the calculations.


28 posted on 12/02/2019 6:27:22 AM PST by gdc61 (LOL not.)
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To: w1n1

If a stationary target is moving then so is the shooter.


29 posted on 12/02/2019 6:35:41 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: w1n1

The Coriolis effect is much so small at those distances to make any difference.

What is described in the shooting east and west sounds more like simply the earth’s rotation, but that doesn’t factor in gravity which is going to be a much more significant factor than the earth’s rotation or the Coriolis Effect.


30 posted on 12/02/2019 6:39:01 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: dblshot

This explains perfectly why I’m dead-on at 999 yds, and miss the whole danged target at 1,001!

/sarc off


31 posted on 12/02/2019 6:39:10 AM PST by Oscar in Batangas (January 20, 2017, High Noon. The end of an error.)
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To: Oscar in Batangas

I just thought it was a case of 1,000 yd yips


32 posted on 12/02/2019 6:40:43 AM PST by Oscar in Batangas (January 20, 2017, High Noon. The end of an error.)
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To: w1n1

Arth rotates at 15.04 degrees per hour.


33 posted on 12/02/2019 6:41:33 AM PST by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA. (Owner of Stars and Bars Flags))
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To: TNoldman

Arth = Earth


34 posted on 12/02/2019 6:45:06 AM PST by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA. (Owner of Stars and Bars Flags))
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To: SkyDancer

If a stationary target is moving then so is the shooter.


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Interesting parallel, don’t you think?


35 posted on 12/02/2019 6:47:03 AM PST by Home-of-the-lazy-dog ("Leftists will stand before you and cut off their own head just to prove that they'll do it!")
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To: HombreSecreto
;)
36 posted on 12/02/2019 6:48:18 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: dblshot

“good thing to know”

It’s only half of the story. When shooting North and South, the target also moves. It stays level, but it moves West when you’re shooting South, and it moves East when you’re shooting North.


37 posted on 12/02/2019 6:49:01 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: norwaypinesavage

I should have said the “grouping”, not the”target”.


38 posted on 12/02/2019 6:51:20 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: Candor7

North?
South?


39 posted on 12/02/2019 6:52:26 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: w1n1

Unfortunately for Bill Buckner, Fenway Park’s first base is located WEST of home plate.


40 posted on 12/02/2019 7:00:11 AM PST by edwinland
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