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Birmingham, Alabama has 53 Times the National Average of Justifiable Homicides
AmmoLand ^ | 6 December, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/08/2019 4:32:03 AM PST by marktwain

Birmingham, Alabama has 53 times the National Average of Justifiable Homicides – Image courtesy Dean Weingarten

In 2019, Birmingham, Alabama has reported a justifiable homicide rate 53 times the national average, as reported in the FBI Uniform Crime Reports.

From bhamwiki.com:

11 of the reported homicides were ruled justifiable as self-defense by investigators or prosecutors and 3 resulted from reckless driving. The suspect in another murder was shot to death on the scene and another killed himself. One death resulted from a violent act committed the previous year. One other homicide took place at the Jefferson County Jail outside the city's jurisdiction. The police department, therefore, acknowledges 82 chargeable homicides. Suspects have been identified in 49 of those cases, arrested in 46 and charged in 41. Charges in one case were dismissed.

Justifiable homicides are severely under-reported in the FBI Uniform Crime Statistics (UCR).  At least two studies indicate there are over five times as many justifiable homicides in the United States as indicated in the FBI UCR numbers. The UCR uses a very restrictive definition of justifiable homicide.

When justifiable homicides are carefully tracked, there are found to be more than five times as many as the FBI UCR records.

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There are about 1000 justified homicides by police each year. There are about 1500 justified homicides by non-police each year. There are about 16,000 homicides total, each year.

About 15-16 percent of homicides, in a given year, are justified.

Is my math off, somehow?

1 posted on 12/08/2019 4:32:03 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Someone might want to have a talk with the cute chick about tactics and weapon retention.


2 posted on 12/08/2019 4:37:50 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido
That many people in Birmingham need killing?
3 posted on 12/08/2019 4:42:48 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

Knew a lady from B’ham. Told me her mom kept a pistol under her brassiere.

Never met mom, but figured she was...busty.


4 posted on 12/08/2019 4:48:55 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: billorites

Oh, there are people needing killin’ EVERYWHERE.


5 posted on 12/08/2019 4:49:08 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: billorites

Not any more...


6 posted on 12/08/2019 4:49:31 AM PST by null and void (Nancy? As a Catholic, why do you vote pro-abortion? Do you hate babies more than you love God?)
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To: Larry Lucido

I was looking at that too, but then I noticed that there appears to be a second revolver grip in the other hand also preventing her from using two hands on that. But if she pulls the trigger on that one it is going to nail her in the forehead. lol


7 posted on 12/08/2019 4:51:01 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: marktwain

Your figures are off.

Justifiable homicides by police, 2018, 410 killed
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-14.xls

Justifiable homicides by private citizens, 353
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-15.xls

Total homicides: 14,123
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-1.xls

The interesting thing is that non-cops kill almost as many bad guys as cops, and you know they will only list something as justifiable by private citizen if it is unambiguously open-and-shut, while cop homicides will be listed as justifiable UNLESS it’s obvious that it wasn’t.


8 posted on 12/08/2019 4:53:07 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: BenLurkin
Knew a lady from B’ham. Told me her mom kept a pistol under her brassiere. Never met mom, but figured she was...busty.

Bra holsters have been around for a long time. I would not recommend them. Seems like an easy way to give herself a mastectomy.


9 posted on 12/08/2019 4:57:52 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: billorites

Yes. Birmingham is like Memphis and other cities where you shouldn’t go out after dark when the ferals get up and start prowling the streets.


10 posted on 12/08/2019 4:58:07 AM PST by Tennessee Conservative
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To: marktwain
This article is useless without demographic breakdown.

But ya’ll knew this already.

11 posted on 12/08/2019 4:58:48 AM PST by riri
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To: riri

100% Americans.

Satisfied?


12 posted on 12/08/2019 5:02:06 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Moms didn’t use a holster, as it was described to me.

{Probably even more reckless, though her family seemed to favor small caliber pistols.)


13 posted on 12/08/2019 5:03:18 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Your figures are off.

Those are the official UCR numbers by the FBI.

As noted in the article, the FBI only catches about 20% of non-police justifiable homicides.

We also know police justifiable killings tend to be about 1000 per year because of the intense media scrutiny after the whole Black Lives Matter imbroglio.

14 posted on 12/08/2019 5:08:21 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: billorites

Maybe there are dumber folks there who can’t learn you don’t mess with folks who carry?


15 posted on 12/08/2019 5:12:52 AM PST by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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To: billorites

Judging from my sojourns there, about 50%. I shan’t get into demographic hairsplitting, because it has it’s share of melanin-deficient peckerwoods who need sterilized from the public at large, as well.


16 posted on 12/08/2019 5:18:21 AM PST by Viking2002 (..........and Epstein didn't kill himself. Yeah, I went there.)
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To: marktwain
Birmingham, Alabama has 53 Times the National Average of Justifiable Homicides

Some people just need killin’

17 posted on 12/08/2019 5:19:29 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: marktwain

And we’re trusting those Fan Belt Inspectors, now?


18 posted on 12/08/2019 5:22:30 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Yeh, dem dangnabbed Pentikostels come out at nite .....LOL...


19 posted on 12/08/2019 5:29:23 AM PST by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: PapaBear3625

Although not ideal, carry purses are much better. They are not obvious and you can carry a full sized pistol. Men have more of a difficulty and concealing the firearm is difficult.


20 posted on 12/08/2019 5:31:57 AM PST by dhs12345
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