Looks seems to me like all those ‘Sleeper Cells” are now awakening.
Per Navy policy, none had weapons to defend themselves with. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
No armed security on the Quarter Deck? bad. Really bad.
American aviation students should be required to carry issued side arms. but all foreign studenta should not be armed. That’s just a fact.
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GREAT POST. Must read.
Unanimously, the sentiment is that Saudis should be expelled from training in our program>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Train them over in Saudi Arabia, where any crimes committed would be subject t Sharia law. In this instant case they would all be decapitated by sword. That keeps them in line.
These POS Saudi brats do not deserve to be in our country.Any Saudis who trained here should not be “nobility” but men who are respectful to our country, or else they stay home. Screen them!We know what the profiles of the spoiled brats are. Or put them through basic training before Pensacola. Those who can’t eat dirt, send them home!
I have had conversations over the last 3 days with at least a dozen current or former Navy flight instructors. Unanimously, the sentiment is that Saudis should be expelled from training in our program. Not only is there legitimate concern for personal safety and national security, there is a general feeling that they won’t be able to put their feeling aside and provide proper training.
Send all the Saudi’s home, except those who knew of attack. They should be executed.
“Saudi Arabia is currently our strongest ally in the Middle East.”
Wrong.
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the (Saudi) norm is an aloof, arrogant child who seeming feels superior to his instructor.
A grownup would kick them out.
A grownup, at this point, wouldn’t appeal for permission to carry, they’d jus do it. Like that ONE commander who was armed and ready.
I went to A School as an Aviation Machinist’s Mate in Millington, TN in 1975-76, and there were a lot of Iranians there.
Personally, I had very few interactions with them except to watch them in classes or to see them marching around in formation. We didn’t fraternize with them, IIRC.
My overall impression was that they were somewhat unserious and frivolous, buttressed by the lone single experience I had with one.
We took part in self-paced learning where there was no instruction, but you read from manuals, took a test, and had it scored. Then you took your test, used a heavy duty electronic hole puncher to punch holes in the paper, and then put them in a binder assigned to you.
One day as I waited in a short line to punch my paper, I had an Iranian Jet Mechanic student behind me. As I got up to the machine and was squaring away my papers to punch them, the Iranian student grabbed my black tie, stuck it in the machine, and punched a hole in it!
He did it so quickly I was too surprised to be angry, and before my anger could come to a boil, he laughingly handed me a ten dollar bill and walked away.
Now, the tie only cost about a buck, and when you do the math, I was only making as an E2 about $12 a day! (sounds silly, but that is what it was-I have a pay stub!)
So, I got nearly a whole day’s pay for having a hole punched in my tie! I thought that was a good trade!
The Iranians as a rule seemed pretty...goofy. I saw them marching in formation once with a petty officer assigned to them, and they had stolen his cap and were tossing it around through the ranks as they marched...silly.
When I went to college after I got out, I had quite a few in my classes (I was a chemistry major) and most I liked. They seemed smart and had good senses of humor. We had one in my class who I became good friends with who when introduced to me, was Homayun Asmilie (I think) but he said “You can call me ‘Brian’!”
When the Embassy takeover took place, many of them became angry and upset because they were forced by their own country to go back to Iran, but there were at least two I remember who became very angry and sullen, and it wasn’t because they had to leave. They were fully on with what was going on over there. I can still see their glowering faces today. (Brian explained all this to me, but I don’t think he was one who went back, though when I graduated I never saw or heard of him again.
I had high hopes for Iran. I hoped they might be the country that would help fix the Middle East, and it didn’t turn out that way at all.
Prospective Saudie students should not only pass an intense background check but they should pass an aptitude test as well, dress in uniforms the same as other students and should be taught discipline the same as others. If they fail in any class they need to be replaced.
To Hell with Saudi Arabia and everyone in it.
This issue is not limited to the Saudis and has been being imposed on us for quite a while. While I was at The Citadel, there was an exchange student program with the Iranians. The same arrogant attitudes and expected treatment were displayed by members of that group.
I don’t believe the program made it through the first semester of ‘73.
It’s obvious the national “powers that be” aren’t interested in the welfare of the people.
but the peaceful Muslim is the majority….they just write the checks
And this is one of the major problems. I think it’s time to make the “peaceful” ones feel the heat.
I agree whole-heartedly with all five of his points.
The Saudis should be required to comply with all training school rules and regulations to the nth degree just like all other students— absolutely no exceptions. Failure to do so will result in expulsion from the program and a ticket to Saudi Arabia. Also, only allow those Saudis in flight training on the base. Again, no exceptions are to be permitted. Why do the Saudi students need Saudi support personnel?
It will never be so, because it shreds their favored narrative.
NYTimes JUST published a story saying it was a ‘clash’ between instructor and student. MSM already covering up for terrorist.
It is ludicrous that trained active duty officers in the United States armed forces are not permitted to carry sidearms. The Fort Hood and Pensacola massacres would have ended differently if those officers were armed. It is equally ludicrous to believe that the vile 9/11 Saudis are “our ally”.
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The US actions are of a country committing suicide and/or actions of a totally compromised political leadership which would rather personally profit than defend the country. President Trump should read every word of this essay.