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From: moses
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Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:44 AM
Subject: Bonn Univ Study
Leading German Virologist: No Transmission Of The Virus In Supermarkets, Restaurants Or Hairdressers Has Been Proved
RTL Luxembourg ^ | 09.04.2020
Posted on 4/13/2020, 12:52:54 AM by Helicondelta
Mr Streeck is a professor for virology and the director of the Institute of virology and HIV Research at the University Bonn. He explained the methodology of his new study in Heinsberg, the epicentre of Germanys COVID-19 outbreak, and talked about potential plans for a country to move forward gradually in getting back to a normal life.
These research findings have already provided some indication on how the virus works, as Streeck clarified:
There is no significant risk of catching the disease when you go shopping. Severe outbreaks of the infection were always a result of people being closer together over a longer period of time, for example the après- ski parties in Ischgl, Austria. He could also not find any evidence of living viruses on surfaces. When we took samples from door handles, phones or toilets it has not been possible to cultivate the virus in the laboratory on the basis of these swabs
.(Excerpt) Read more at today.rtl.lu ...
AN HONEST FOLLOWUP HERE ON WHAT BONN UNIV DID IS WELCOME
Nearly everyone in my rural county are wearing masks while they are at our mini WM and stores. Town of about 3000 m/l, plus the rural population (have more cows than people, ha). Am surprised somewhat at their willingness to wear masks, and glad they do.
What is new here?
Good perspectives, thanks for posting this.
Victoria Stodden
Associate Professor of Information Sciences, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Where Did You Get That Fact?
We are being inundated every day with computational findings, conclusions, and statistics. In op-eds, policy debates, and public discussions numbers are presented with the finality of a slammed door. In fact we need to know how these findings were reached, so we can evaluate their relevance, their credibility, resolve conflicts when they differ and make better decisions. Even figuring out where a number came from is a challenge, let alone trying to understand how it was determined.
https://www.edge.org/responses/q2013
if you go...a little more than halfway down on the scroll bar on the right
The scientific method suggests skepticism when interpreting conclusions, and a responsibility to communicate scientific findings transparently, so others may evaluate and understand the result. We need to bring these notions into our everyday expectations when presented with new computational results. We should be able to dig in and find out where the statistics came from, how they were computed, and why we should believe them. Those concepts receive almost no consideration when findings are publicly communicated.
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In Wuhan and Italy, once the governments realized this was the biggest problem, these workers were made to live on campus with their patients and were not allowed out to ride public transportation or use public restrooms.
The lockdowns should apply to these medical workers - not to the general public. People are not getting COVID-19 from somebody coughing two aisles away at the supermarket. Trump needs to get a team of top doctors to confirm this and get them in front of the cameras ASAP, or the MSM and their Democrat puppets will continue the hysteria unabated.
No random sampling yet in the US. We’re still flying blind. On purpose. We haven’t killed the economy enough yet to stoke a socialist revolution, and bankrupt deplorables. Give it another few weeks, that should do it.
The first cases and deaths in the USA were in the place where we live in King County east of Seattle directly attributable to the half million Chinese people living here many of whom visit home often and have frequent visitors. We had scary predictions about what was going to happen here after University of Washington researchers discovered early on that we had community spread weeks before the first cases were discovered.
A couple local hospitals had overwhelmed ICUs when the virus hit some local nursing homes, but just before the governor's “stay at home” order went into effect nearly a month ago the hospitals started clearing out and the deaths slowed to a trickle. This is fairly common with respiratory illness epidemics, once the most vulnerable people die, the deaths trickle off quickly.
The fire department that I retired from recently tested every member. 11 were found to be positive, only 1 had any symptoms, and his were so benign that he thought he was just having issues from our extremely high pollen count this year, and still coming to work.
In our area we were the first in the nation to have issues and the peak was over three weeks ago. The deaths since that time have mostly been “presumptive” by CDC guidelines. ie... My brother-in-law had an inoperable cancerous brain tumor; he was being cared for by hospice workers and his family. His cause of death was “respiratory failure”, so by CDC guidelines he was counted as a “presumptive Covid-19 death. Everyone knows this is BS, but when I mentioned this to my neighbors... they couldn't get away from me fast enough. But this is happening all across the country. And the huge increase in testing is making it look like we have a growing number of cases ere even though our number of people actually sick is declining.
Prince George’s County Maryland implements this requirement tomorrow. For the while I will shop in adjacent Howard or Anne Arundel. When they go train robber chic I will keep hopscotching on this cheap gasoline.
To wit - forcing everyone to stay home is making the problem worse as it spreads through families faster.
Does this mean the Chinese and Iranians who spread the disease skipped Germany - and the only cases in Germany are the 'second hand stuff'?