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1 posted on 05/02/2020 11:46:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, but just think how bad it COULD have been! Millions could have died.


2 posted on 05/02/2020 11:50:41 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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I think one thing maybe we can ALL agree on, and that is a FACT that the CDC failed America.

Not defending numbers from alternative sources, but if the CDC didn't require a fee of $6k, and a written proposal for said data's use, maybe Americans and news agencies wouldn't need to get their data from alternative sources.

America's CDC has failed us in every way possible under their current job description.

3 posted on 05/02/2020 11:55:06 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: SeekAndFind

CHILDREN were never the concern

maybe infants, but not children.

seniors and adults w/ respiratory issues are the concern as they’ll be more likely to be infected after exposure and have a much higher mortality rate.


4 posted on 05/02/2020 11:57:31 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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My 24 yr old daughter had gone through many jobs that did not suit her and a couple of boyfriends who did not suit her...a rough and slow growing up for her. Left home early...she finally got a job in a print shop that she really clicked with & loved her colleagues. She was getting stabilized paying her own way in a rather rough flat but learning to make it on her own. No roomies no boyfriends staying home and making things and painting as she has always been a maker/creative sort.
Then this pandemic hit...she was initially told by the owner he would soon be putting them back to work after keeping them on payroll but today he emailed the staff and advised that they seek unemployment as he did not have enough business to bring back the full crew.
She was devastated.


5 posted on 05/02/2020 11:57:47 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: SeekAndFind

their stats are wrong. they’re making an assumption the entire population has been exposed, like the flu. but due to the self quarantine, the vast majority of the country has yet to be exposed.


9 posted on 05/02/2020 12:00:00 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: SeekAndFind; abb

The CDC are belatedly flubros, after the numbers couldn’t be inflated enough.


10 posted on 05/02/2020 12:06:25 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: SeekAndFind

From the graphic:

For 18-64, hospitalization rates are higher than those for influenza at comparable time points during the last 5 influenza seasons.

For 65 and over, rates are similar to comparable time points during recent high severity influenza seasons.


11 posted on 05/02/2020 12:07:27 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yet the bullet point just above that was completely ignored. Why is that?


13 posted on 05/02/2020 12:11:50 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Follow your Inner Trump)
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Fees and Invoicing

NCHS charges user fees to help pay for administrative functions and operational support of the RDC. In many cases, the RDC does not recover the full cost of RDC services through user fees. RDC researchers are expected to pay user fees. NCHS data partners and survey sponsors should refer to their inter-agency agreements with NCHS for more information about fees. In most instances, researchers will be charged a management fee and a usage fee; please see details below. Also, there are additional fees for researchers who conduct their work at Federal Statistical RDCs (FSRDC); please see below for details.

Management Fee:

The management fee covers the cost of processing the researcher’s proposal, processing required paperwork, setting-up computer accounts, managing the researcher’s analytic data file and disclosure review of output as described in the approved proposal.

The table below provides the management fees you should expect for your project. Please note that data years are counted per year. For example, 2006 – 2010 NSFG counts as five (5) years even though it is a single cycle of the NSFG survey. Researchers cannot request a single year of data that is released in a multiple year cycle.

RDC Fee schedule based on data years

Data Years Requested Fee
1 to 6 $ 3,000
7 to 8 $ 3,750
9 to 10 $ 4,500
11 to 12 $ 5,250
13 to 14 $ 6,000
15 to 16 $ 6,750
17 to 18 $ 7,500
19 to 20 $ 8,250

Add $750 for every 2 years of data over 20 years.

After the proposal has been approved, researchers must merge as many of the public-use and external data files together as possible and deliver a complete merged file to the assigned RDC analyst to expedite creation of the analytic data file. The merged file must include only the public-use and external variables that were listed in the data dictionaries that were provided in the approved proposal.

https://www.cdc.gov/rdc/b5aprovproj/ap540.htm

14 posted on 05/02/2020 12:12:23 PM PDT by amorphous
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Yup. This virus has some distinctive modalities in the body......but it has not proven to be anywhere near as devastating as we were told. Now we learn that, in most areas of the country, the Virus had little impact at all.. and in those areas where it really did some damage, it is showing signs of abating (with its purported 71 day cyclicity its about on par with seasonal flus).

We’ve learned enough about it to know how to advise those with heightened susceptibility ... and we have an effective treatment (90 to 100 percent range) being the inexpensive trifecta of well-known meds. Now, we only need to lift this siege, end the Lockdown of America, and let people try to find jobs (if they can) again! “MAMA” applies now more than ever!


19 posted on 05/02/2020 12:26:07 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (11``1)
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Scientist with political agenda's should be disqualified from government jobs and government funding.

Eisenhower warned about two dangers to society in his final speech... The military industrial establishment and politically or financially motivated scientist... He was right about both.

$10,120,866,514 Public Healthcare expenditures today... And counting.

$3,162,955,991 Public Military expenditures today... And counting.

241,547 Deaths caused by the Corona Chinese Italian Covid-19 virus this year... And counting.

840,231 Deaths caused by alcohol this year... And counting.

1,679,413 Deaths caused by smoking this year... And counting.

Jobs lost due to this virus will result in destitution for years to come and for tens of millions of souls to save a few thousand people.

On the other hand... Government could stop the sale of cigarettes and save millions of lives... Instead they have shut down the economy and created a depression to for this virus that will disappear as quickly as it came.

20 posted on 05/02/2020 12:30:25 PM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Currently, the mortality rate is around 5.9%, higher than originally predicted.


22 posted on 05/02/2020 1:20:04 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: SeekAndFind
But...It Was Exponential!

charts, graphs, glossies, with circles and arrows and squiggley lines in multicolor

And the hockey sticks, don't forget the hockey sticks!

24 posted on 05/02/2020 1:23:53 PM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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its not just the unemployed....its also the under employed, and its all the small businesses going under that won't show up on the unemployment roles...

its weddings cancelled...its funerals cancelled...its all of sports and all the energy that it brings...LOST...

just read that one of our favorite places in Vegas a restaurant off the strip named Ricardos is closing after 40 yrs...one family ran it....

this serious but hyped crisis and its manipulators should be put in jail....

36 posted on 05/02/2020 2:39:08 PM PDT by cherry
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To: SeekAndFind

Well duh


51 posted on 05/02/2020 4:57:31 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; ...

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52 posted on 05/02/2020 5:01:07 PM PDT by bitt (Much of our culture is intended to traumatize us, as traumatized people are easily controlled)
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It's not the flu dammit!

Had to sneak that in, because that's what was typed to me by
furious people for saying the same thing in March.

59 posted on 05/04/2020 2:03:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: SeekAndFind

...so now where do we place the blame..?


61 posted on 05/04/2020 2:12:52 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t think the context of the article is correct.


69 posted on 05/05/2020 6:11:38 AM PDT by hawkaw
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