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Marines are finally about to receive their first new pistol in 35 years
taskandpurpose.com ^ | May 21, 2020 | Jared Keller

Posted on 05/22/2020 1:04:47 PM PDT by PROCON

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To: Texas Fossil

Put Your hand
On That Ruger,
at least Before
You decide.


41 posted on 05/22/2020 2:28:12 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (He Hath Not Given Us A Spirit Of Fear)
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To: Spirochete

Next they’ll switch to a .22 caliber (Sarc.).


42 posted on 05/22/2020 2:29:34 PM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: Spirochete

Then something was wrong because that take down lever is real easy to operate. Only the Beretta 96/92 has an easier one.


43 posted on 05/22/2020 2:31:24 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Highest Authority

They did...M16. :)


44 posted on 05/22/2020 2:31:47 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: NormsRevenge

When I was PFC in the Army in Germany,I had CQ one night and the CQ in charge was the Arms Room Sgt. We were talking about the .45 and he brought one up,gave me a lesson on break down,cleaning and reassemble and I did that for 24 hours. I can still do it in my sleep like the M-16,M-60,M-2 and M-249 which I have all been behind at one time or another. Anyway,I am very partial to the 1911 and the .45 caliber.


45 posted on 05/22/2020 2:32:26 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Big Red Badger
I just want some Range Time,,, With a Happy Ending.

Sounds like The End of a Perfect Day (click here)!

Like you said, you can't improve on perfection . . .

46 posted on 05/22/2020 2:37:53 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Bratch

What really caused the disaster in Miami was the bad guys kept fighting after they were basically dead. They were also using Ruger Mini-14s.

Autopsy later determined the 9mm bullets had performed as they should have. One I remember was tearing of one perp’s aorta off his heart. He kept fighting for nearly a minute.


47 posted on 05/22/2020 2:39:21 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: Big Red Badger

Looks rather small, I wonder how much this is for
female soldiers.
I got the .45 in the Marine corps and it’s what I
have now, a Springfield Champion but it is heavy
and is only 7 rounds.


48 posted on 05/22/2020 2:41:16 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: 43north

And a copper-jacketed 45 cal. RN needs no excuse in a civil trial when the shooter’s motives are impeached.


49 posted on 05/22/2020 2:42:19 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: PROCON

https://www.sigsauer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/OPERATOR_MANUAL_M17_M18_COMMERCIAL_UPDATED_5_30_2019.pdf


50 posted on 05/22/2020 2:48:00 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: Bratch
Read more about the Miami shootout. Both perps died. The problem was that they didn’t die fast enough after being hit.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FBI_Miami_shootout

51 posted on 05/22/2020 2:50:21 PM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: shanover

The 1911 isn’t perfect tho a great design. Trying to get that barrel link just right while reassembling can be a pain. Also the the safety/slide hold open spring tunnel has a habit of getting loose.

The 1911 is one of the easiest to detail strip, no tools if you can use the magazine to unscrew the grip screws.


52 posted on 05/22/2020 2:50:29 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: tet68
Looks rather small, I wonder how much this is for female soldiers.

Yep, probably for the girls. It's the compact version of the M17.

53 posted on 05/22/2020 2:54:06 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: PROCON

while also bringing with it new, more effective ammunition...???


54 posted on 05/22/2020 2:54:14 PM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed.)
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To: Yo-Yo
With today’s ammunition, stopping power isn’t an issue.

Bingo. 9mm +P is more than competent.

55 posted on 05/22/2020 2:55:32 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: 43north
I take issue with your non-issue. A 9mm (or .380 Magnum as some of us like to refer to it) MUST expand to be effective. A .45 is already a .45 so any expansion is nice but not absolutely necessary.

As long as I’m carrying ammunition that has passed the FBI protocols for penetration, I feel very comforted. A Glock 26 with 10+1, and a spare Glock 19 15 round magazine, all loaded with Hornaday 124 grain XTP ammunition will do just fine.

56 posted on 05/22/2020 2:57:42 PM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: PROCON
I thought 9mm wasn't liked and the branches were moving to 45?
57 posted on 05/22/2020 3:10:48 PM PDT by Vision (Obama corrupted, sought to weaken and fundamentally change America; he didn't plan on being stopped.)
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To: PROCON
I was an MP at LeJuene in the mid 80's when we transitioned from the .45 to the 9. We, of course, spent a lot of time on the range qualifying and bitchin' about the stopping power, etc. when one of the range instructors made the comment, "Hey, would you rather be hit by a Volkswagen doin' 90 or a Mac Truck doing 50?"

Carried a handgun my whole life and don't really hold to that question/comment, but it stuck with me as a spiffy anecdote...

'Course, that reminds me too of being a younger boot even before that when we WERE still carrying the .45 and going to semi-annual qual. I was griping about how loose the my old, issued pistol was...so loose you could shake it and hear it clank. I blamed that for my inability to get a tight group on the target. My moaning caught the ear of a range instructor, who snatched the pistol from my hands, drew down on the target and placed five rounds center mass, handed the .45 back to me and silently walked away. I shut up.

58 posted on 05/22/2020 3:11:00 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Proud yet grieving father of my precious child Jon Jon...)
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To: yarddog

“Everyone finally figured out that the 9mm didn’t really cause the fatalities.”

No, officer Barbie doesn’t like the .40.


59 posted on 05/22/2020 3:22:10 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Big Red Badger

Yes. Larger is better.


60 posted on 05/22/2020 3:22:11 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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