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WHAT I WROTE 3 YEARS AGO TODAY
boblonsberry.com ^ | 08/17/2020 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 08/17/2020 12:17:08 PM PDT by shortstop

If you destroy Trump, you destroy the presidency. And if you destroy the presidency, you destroy the Republic.

That's where we are now.

The slow-motion coup has devolved into a low-grade civil war, and hatred has become the coin of the political realm. Once we took up our politics because of our love for our country, now we do it because of our hatred for our opponents.

It is that way for both sides, and the foundations of the nation are washing away in the rising tide of incivility. It is beginning to look like the French revolution. People have sincere worries about civil disorder and the ability of our system to survive this storm.

And it all centers around Trump.

Because of his miscues, and because of an unrelenting attempt to push him from office and nullify the 2016 election.

There is a clear and undeniable coordinated effort to take him down, to drive him from the presidency. It has trickled down from its organizers to become a moblike frenzy in the hearts of the people and the streets of the country.

And it may succeed. The Trump presidency may become unsustainable.

What a tragedy that would be for the nation. Not because of Trump. He -- like all presidents -- is temporary and interchangeable. But because of the precedent it would set and the instability it would introduce.

Driving Trump from office would make every future presidential election illegitimate, and would destroy the function of the presidency in our Republic.

How so?

By showing the shrillest partisans that they no longer had to accept the outcome of elections. By demonstrating that the constitutional manner of presidential election by the people did not have to be respected.

Every political operative would know that if it worked once, it might work again, and the morning after every election, the losing side would begin its effort to take the winner down. That is an undeniable truth. The lust for political blood is the driving power of our two parties. They have no off season, they only have anger and avarice, and those two passions will be given free rein, as they have been since the Trump election.

For some 225 years we accepted the outcome of elections, and we accepted the presidencies of the winners of those elections. That gave us a continuity and stability -- even under weak or unpopular presidents -- that were essential to our national survival. And now we are endangering that outcome by rejecting that tradition.

If you push out Trump, the losing party and its followers will never again accept a presidential election. That means America will never again truly have a president. That's not good.

Chaos is not a healthy state, it is not a desirable end. Yet it is the focus and purpose of the current beseiging of Trump and his presidency. He may be the target, but the country may end up being the collateral damage. Those who truly love the country, and are truly working for what they believe is its best interest, may do well to weigh the impact of an unpopular or inept president against the destruction of the institution he represents.

It ends up not being about Trump, it ends up being about America. And do we select our leaders by voting, or by demonstrating in the streets?

If you destroy Trump, you destroy the presidency. And if you destroy the presidency, you destroy the Republic.

But then, that might be what this is all about anyway.


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If you destroy Trump, you destroy the presidency. And if you destroy the presidency, you destroy the Republic.
1 posted on 08/17/2020 12:17:08 PM PDT by shortstop
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To: shortstop

“Because of his miscues, ..”

Stopped reading right there


2 posted on 08/17/2020 12:22:22 PM PDT by enumerated
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To: shortstop
The left is never going back to pretending to accept elections, never going back to pretending to be moderate, never going back to pretending to love America.

They put their crazies in charge and moved the needle waay way left. I mean, we were honestly talking about how Nancy Pelosi's grip on power was tenuous because she wasnt far enough to the left to satisfy the crazies. It's that bad. That's not getting undone.

And as a result, eventually one side will have to destroy the other or the nation will fracture. The left is evil and destroys everything they touch. Everything.

3 posted on 08/17/2020 12:25:50 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: enumerated

“Because of his miscues, ..”

Yep. When I read that, I knew this guy had an agenda. There have not been “miscues”. There have been promises made, and promises kept.


4 posted on 08/17/2020 12:28:49 PM PDT by left that other site (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all. (Isaiah 7:9))
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To: shortstop

A history essay http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf suggests a government rarely lasts more than 250 years due to human tendencies. USA is about 244 years old. Darn! Was hoping ‘apres moi le deluge,’ if it had to happen at all.


5 posted on 08/17/2020 12:32:29 PM PDT by JungleGoat77 (.)
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To: shortstop

Sadly, there aren’t enough lampposts to accommodate all of the traitors to our Republic.


6 posted on 08/17/2020 12:35:29 PM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: shortstop

Yes, our republic is on the verge of destruction as if the Democrats win the presidency and the Senate in 11/2020, they will rule for many years. They will make it certain future elections are won by them through bread, circuses and vote cheating.

After the years pass by our land will be a failed state like Venezuela and either self destruct or will be part of the Chinese World Empire.


7 posted on 08/17/2020 12:39:46 PM PDT by RicocheT (ymca)
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To: shortstop
If you push out Trump, the losing party and its followers will never again accept a presidential election. That means America will never again truly have a president. That's not good.

No matter who gets elected, the other side will not accept the outcome. The Dems are trying to steal the election, that is a given based on their insistence on mailing ballots being sent to every single person on the voting rolls, without checking for correct addresses, or even of the voters are still alive. And the Dems are in turn, preparing their constituents for the possibility that their cheating will not be enough to defeat Trump and I guarantee that the mobs will be out in nearly every big city to show their outrage at the "stolen election".

8 posted on 08/17/2020 12:40:18 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Find out who your neighbors are and get to know them. You’ll need them in the coming months.


9 posted on 08/17/2020 12:42:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: shortstop
Driving Trump from office would make every future presidential election illegitimate, and would destroy the function of the presidency in our Republic.

That's going to happen regardless of who wins. If Trump wins then half the country will say his election was illegitimate because of voter suppression. If Biden wins then the other half of the country is going to say his election was illegitimate because of election fraud. Either way presidential elections in 2024 and beyond will be questioned.

10 posted on 08/17/2020 12:43:53 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: enumerated

I stopped reading too. They left, and specifically obama, hated me first.


11 posted on 08/17/2020 12:50:49 PM PDT by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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To: shortstop

This has happened before. It’s time it happened again.

“We must show them the black flag! Kill ‘em! Kill ‘em all!” - Stonewall Jackson


12 posted on 08/17/2020 12:52:40 PM PDT by DrPretorius
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To: Psalm 73

I have no problem with reusing them.


13 posted on 08/17/2020 12:54:57 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: DrPretorius
“Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.” ― H.L. Mencken, Prejudices: First Series I believe we are getting close to the end of Claire Wolfe's awkward phase.
14 posted on 08/17/2020 12:58:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: JungleGoat77
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”
― Alexander Fraser Tytler
15 posted on 08/17/2020 12:58:28 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: enumerated

“Miscues”

Says a lot about the writer, and it’s not good.

Plus, Trump’s not leaving office until 2025, if then. Hehehe.


16 posted on 08/17/2020 12:59:05 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: enumerated

Fascinating!


17 posted on 08/17/2020 1:24:35 PM PDT by coaster123 (Distrust every person under sixty, every institution over eight.)
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To: coaster123

If this unfortunately devolves into a “French revolution” scenario, I think I know who will suffer the most.


18 posted on 08/17/2020 1:25:44 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: DoodleDawg
It could be record turnout for both candidates, and the Democrats will still say it was voter suppression.

-PJ

19 posted on 08/17/2020 1:34:37 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: shortstop

It is that way for both sides, and the foundations of the nation are washing away in the rising tide of incivility.
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I am opposed to usurpers of both parties.
Cruz, Rubio, Jindal, Haley and George P. Bush are just as ineligible as Obama and Harris.


20 posted on 08/17/2020 1:38:02 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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