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Where will the next epidemic start?
SS ^ | 9/30/20 | ss

Posted on 10/02/2020 7:11:38 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

Viruses jumping from animals to humans have been the starting point of numerous outbreaks, from Ebola to Zika.

Given the similarity of SARS-CoV-2 to coronaviruses found in bats, this probably marked the beginning of COVID-19 too.

We know that viruses have passed from animals to humans throughout history, and will continue to do so. But the factors that influence the geographical origin of these events is less clear, despite being highly important.

Knowing where they occur can help us understand the factors behind a virus crossing species, in particular, by looking at the traits of viruses circulating in the ecosystem where the jump happened.

But identifying a virus’s origin is sometimes difficult. Human movement is constant and wide-ranging, which means that the first case of a disease can be hundreds, if not thousands of miles away from where transmission into humans started.

Given this, where should we be looking for the virus that might cause the next epidemic?

Beyond Africa and Asia Generally, viruses emerge where humans and animals that carry viruses intersect. Repeated interaction between people, these animals or insects and the wider environment in which the virus circulates increases the opportunity for a jump across species. These jumps are believed to be rare, and probably happen due to a specific set of circumstances that cannot necessarily be predicted.

Humans are exposed to viruses all the time. Most of these exposures lead to a “dead-end infection”, where the virus isn’t passed on.

Occasionally, though, the virus may be able to replicate and be transmitted to a new host, or if vector-borne, to an insect that establishes a novel and functional transmission cycle.

This happens all over the world, though recent headline-grabbing outbreaks give the impression that viruses emerge in some places more than others. In particular, the seriousness of outbreaks such as Sars in Asia and Ebola in Africa makes it look like these are the only places where it happens. This isn’t the case.

For example, the Schmallenberg virus, which primarily infects livestock and causes spontaneous abortion in infected animals, recently appeared in Europe. And while we don’t hear much about viruses emerging from South America, it does happen.

The Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus and the Mayaro virus have repeatedly caused outbreaks in South and Central America. It’s only because these diseases haven’t spread beyond the Americas that they aren’t more widely known.

A further factor that has prevented the Mayaro virus from gaining more attention is that it has very similar symptoms to disease caused by another virus – chikungunya. It’s also often misdiagnosed as dengue fever, meaning the true number of Mayaro cases isn’t being reported.

This points to a wider issue, which is that most viruses initially cause very similar symptoms. In areas where dengue or malaria are endemic, most viral diseases are attributed to these infections, masking the appearance of new viruses until they become common – by which point they may have spread from their point of origin.

More effective and faster diagnostics are needed to help identify these sorts of novel diseases before they have a chance to shift into new transmission cycles.

Humans close to where a virus is endemic don’t always show evidence of it emerging, either. Through regular exposure to the virus they may not show any symptoms of infection. It may be only after the virus moves into an unexposed population that there are enough cases for it to be identified. In the highly connected world of today, this could be halfway around the globe.

We need to look at hosts If it’s not really feasible to determine where the next epidemic will start by simply looking at a map, then what should we do? Well, a better method is to try and understand the endemic transmission cycle of viruses – that is, to look at the animals and environments in which viruses replicate without causing human disease – and then work backwards.

Knowing what viruses are already out there in animals can help us trace the origins of human diseases when new outbreaks occur. This knowledge is critical to understanding the potential risks in different areas of the globe. It can also help us unpick what factors make it more likely that viruses will jump into humans.

For instance, with SARS-CoV-2 it was previous research into the transmission cycles of bat coronaviruses in China that helped identify these animals as the likely origin of the outbreak. This is now letting us investigate what it is about bats that means they’re so often involved in viruses crossing into humans.

It may be that the adaptation of coronaviruses to bats increases the likelihood that they can jump to other mammalian species, including humans. Equally, it could be that the physiology of bats makes them excellent virus carriers. However, other recent work suggests that viruses emerge more commonly from bats simply because there’s a high number of bat species, rather than bats themselves being an exceptional host.

Our understanding of the virus species present in bats and other species is only at its beginning – in fact, the study that helped trace the origins to SARS-CoV-2 to bats in China was recently halted.

If we’re serious about trying to predict what the next dangerous virus might be – and where it might come from – we need instead to be expanding this sort of work, not ending it.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: doom; epidemic; pandemic; pestilence

1 posted on 10/02/2020 7:11:38 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

In a street riot near you.....


2 posted on 10/02/2020 7:17:49 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no merit in compromising with the Devil.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Doesn’t matter where it starts. With international flights thousands of times a day, it will spread. Limit travel to and from basket case countries.


3 posted on 10/02/2020 7:18:12 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Not voting for Trump is contributing to the death of the Republic.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; null and void

Bigger question is how many epidemics and pandemics are currently in progress and where are they globally?


4 posted on 10/02/2020 7:23:03 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019)l)
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To: G Larry

COVID19 didn’t start from a bat, it came from the Chicom’s!
Plain and simple we should already be at war with those commie bastards!


5 posted on 10/02/2020 7:26:18 AM PDT by spincaster (g)
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To: spincaster

My point is that the next “epidemic” will be a civil war.


6 posted on 10/02/2020 7:28:39 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no merit in compromising with the Devil.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Yep pandemics come and go.....

Here is a list of some that have occurred thru the ages.

20 of the worst epidemics and pandemics in history
https://www.livescience.com/worst-epidemics-and-pandemics-in-history.html


7 posted on 10/02/2020 7:37:29 AM PDT by deport
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To: spincaster

It’s a man made virus. It’s not natural. I had it and I can attest that is 100% lab made in China.


8 posted on 10/02/2020 7:47:10 AM PDT by Tamatoa (Fight for our America, Fight for our Country I fought to defend!!!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

It will start in China. It always starts in China.
It will involve some hapless critters and the wet market.


9 posted on 10/02/2020 7:49:30 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Neither safety nor security exists in nature. Everything is dangerous and has risk.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

When is the real question.

I figure in about two weeks.


10 posted on 10/02/2020 7:52:50 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.....)
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To: a fool in paradise; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
a fool in paradise ~ Bigger question is how many epidemics and pandemics are currently in progress and where are they globally?

I wouldn't discount the possibility that they have a new and improved deadly plague 'in the can' just waiting for the moment when the rest of the world is so throughly sick and tired of wearing masks that we will refuse to don them yet again for another "false" alarm.

spincaster ~ COVID19 didn’t start from a bat, it came from the Chicom’s!
Plain and simple we should already be at war with those commie bastards!

We ARE already be at war with those commie bastards...

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

The false positive rate was 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Free everyone else.

11 posted on 10/02/2020 7:56:19 AM PDT by null and void (Democrats donate to bail money. Republicans donate to scholarships. ~ throwthebumsout)
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To: null and void

Whatever and whenever, I’m not participating. ;)


12 posted on 10/02/2020 7:59:47 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good plan!


13 posted on 10/02/2020 8:14:00 AM PDT by null and void (Democrats donate to bail money. Republicans donate to scholarships. ~ throwthebumsout)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

The FungYouTooFlu is man made and airborne. This will not go away as anyone with eyes can see. Someone once said live free or die and that looks like today’s options. At least for today.


14 posted on 10/02/2020 8:17:51 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Don’t know “where” the next will start, but a few months back Bill Gates said, chuckling, that the next wave in the Fall “will get your attention”.


15 posted on 10/02/2020 10:31:52 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: null and void

Wash your hands

Don’t spit on the sidewalk

Stay home if you’re sick


16 posted on 10/02/2020 10:58:47 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

Don’t tug on Superman’s cape...


17 posted on 10/02/2020 11:03:50 AM PDT by null and void (Democrats donate to bail money. Republicans donate to scholarships. ~ throwthebumsout)
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To: null and void

“You Don’t Mess Around With Jim” by Jim Croce

Uptown got its hustlers
The Bowery got its bums
42nd Street got Big Jim Walker
He’s a pool-shootin’ son of a gun
Yeah, he big and dumb as a man can come
But he stronger than a country hoss
And when the bad folks all get together at night
You know they all call big Jim “Boss”, just because
And they say

You don’t tug on Superman’s cape
You don’t spit into the wind
You don’t pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger
And you don’t mess around with Jim

Well outta south Alabama come a country boy
He say I’m lookin’ for a man named Jim
I am a pool-shootin’ boy
My name’s Willie McCoy
But down home they call me Slim
Yeah I’m lookin’ for the king of 42nd Street
He drivin’ a drop top Cadillac
Last week he took all my money
And it may sound funny
But I come to get my money back
And everybody say Jack don’t you know

You don’t tug on Superman’s cape
You don’t spit into the wind
You don’t pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger
And you don’t mess around with Jim

Well a hush fell over the pool room
Jimmy come boppin’ in off the street
And when the cuttin’ was done
The only part that wasn’t bloody
Was the soles of the big man’s feet, ooh
And he was cut in about a hundred places
And he was shot in a couple more
And you better believe
They sung another kind of story
When big Jim hit the floor

Now they say

You don’t tug on Superman’s cape
You don’t spit into the wind
You don’t pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger
And you don’t mess around with Slim

Yeah, big Jim got his hat
Find out where it’s at
And it’s not hustlin’ people strange to you
Even if you do got a two-piece custom-made pool cue

Yeah you don’t tug on Superman’s cape
You don’t spit into the wind
You don’t pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
And you don’t mess around with Slim


18 posted on 10/02/2020 11:11:54 AM PDT by Patriot777 ("When you see these things begin to happen, look up, for your redemption draweth nigh.")
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To: null and void

That too


19 posted on 10/02/2020 5:04:38 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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