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Life-Saving Technology: The case for a green front brake indicator light.
Greenbrakelight.com ^ | June 16, 2007 | Mark Lesniak

Posted on 02/13/2021 3:10:03 PM PST by Melinator2

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To: Responsibility2nd
Wow. Talk about your tl;dr.

I think there ought to be a WTFL;DR.

61 posted on 02/13/2021 4:16:35 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Melinator2
nasty trolling freeppers who like to drive people away from Jims site want to argue about tone, wordiness, blog pimpiing... almost as if they have lost any capacity for deep thought having been driven mad by the dopamine hits


63 posted on 02/13/2021 4:17:05 PM PST by humblegunner (Balls To Picasso.)
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To: Larry Lucido
Why are the comments centered? Who left his tags open???

Ha! That happened to me, too, when I first opened this article. I hit the 'refresh' button, and it reloaded normally. But yeah, I remember the old days when somebody didn't close their italics tag, and every comment that followed were also italicized.

64 posted on 02/13/2021 4:17:17 PM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Melinator2

Been here for five months and posting something that’s fourteen years old and very wordy is your first post?

Welcome to FR.


65 posted on 02/13/2021 4:18:15 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Henchster

Or how about you use your big boy words to tell me where the nasty man offended you. Dont like green lights ? Dont like ideas? Afraid maybe someone thought of something you didnt? Are you so angry you are just shaking!!! lol


66 posted on 02/13/2021 4:19:18 PM PST by Melinator2 (Normal Life Please!!)
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To: Melinator2
Suck it Retard

Is that how your dad proposed to your mom?

67 posted on 02/13/2021 4:19:51 PM PST by humblegunner (Balls To Picasso.)
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To: Yo-Yo

well in this case, if you think about it, green does mean go, so the observer is not misinformed.


68 posted on 02/13/2021 4:20:56 PM PST by Melinator2 (Normal Life Please!!)
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To: Lurker
If you want to make cars safer remove the seat belts and air bags. Replace them with a 10 inch long stainless steel spike in the center of the steering wheel pointed at the drivers chest.

You make a good point there. It certainly would work.

69 posted on 02/13/2021 4:22:53 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Melinator2

As a retired civil engineer specializing in highway and traffic enginerring, methinks this idea would do much more harm than good. It would serve no purpose except for pedestrians, who would likely get a false sense of security and then get run over by paying more attention to the light than learning to judge the speed of the approaching vehicle. And turning vehicles? Why would a driver approaching pay any attention? The turning vehicle doesn’t necessarily brake and must yield the right of way anyhow. Has such a system ever been tested anywhere?

Just my two cents based on my over 50 years of experience.


70 posted on 02/13/2021 4:26:44 PM PST by Real Cynic No More (Make America Great. Prosecute Dems who break the law!)
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To: Olog-hai

Been here over 20 years. Is there a maximum length you lifers want as a “first post”? My original content is unwanted! unless of course i was to post a simple excerpt, then I would be a blog pimp and trying to steal the traffic that humblegunner and the troll brigade bring to the site.


71 posted on 02/13/2021 4:28:03 PM PST by Melinator2 (Normal Life Please!!)
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To: Clay Moore

I have purchased the lights and wiring etc. They are trailer running lights. they use bulbs so I feel i need to be cautious about simply tap splicing them into the brake circuit. led would likely be better, but they do not come with green lenses. green lenses are exceedingly rare because no one loves them. I am going to do filming this spring (currently deep winter here). I will put it on the website.


72 posted on 02/13/2021 4:32:31 PM PST by Melinator2 (Normal Life Please!!)
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To: Melinator2
Imagine you are crossing at a pedestrian light and you see a vehicle coming at speed. For an instant you wonder whether he has a foot on the brake?

Somebody needs a hobby. This is stupid! A moose? A pedestrian? I don't care what color any light is or where it's mounted, you never ever step out in front of a vehicle until it slows way down or stops and you'd better have eye contact with the driver.

Example: Many people ride their brakes, and this will give the fools who walk out in front of moving vehicles a false sense of security. Oh gee, he's braking, as they go under the wheels.

73 posted on 02/13/2021 4:38:15 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Melinator2
Been here over 20 years.


Melinator2
Liar since Oct 27, 2020

he's a jerk, watch him squeal:

74 posted on 02/13/2021 4:38:42 PM PST by humblegunner (Balls To Picasso.)
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To: fruser1

This idea may deserve some thought and discussion.

But.

Today’s mandated turn signals, orange blinking ones, are inadequate.

Forget that lazy, and/or entitled won’t use their blinkers, but that the sleek, fashionable, LED light placements hide the turn signals unless viewed from the perfect angle.

So if existing turn signals are not used or deficient, how will adding some green lights help.

Now consider some drunk driver. GREEN, GO, OOPS!


75 posted on 02/13/2021 4:39:31 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM 'information', maybe more so!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Well green lights are a cheap easy elegant retrofit on top of everything else. Perhaps your diminishing returns argument has merit if one regards incorporating those new lights into legislation etc but keep in mind most of the world does not have all the latest hightech wizardry. cheap scooters, old vehicles, non american. Also, I submit that there is at least equal benefit to knowing when a vehicle has lit brake indicators whether viewing from the front or rear. no one would suggest turn indicator visible from all sides are necessary, so why insist front brake lights are bad? Is this simply a matter of never really looking deeply into the subject, or am I missing something more obvious from your argument?


76 posted on 02/13/2021 4:40:30 PM PST by Melinator2 (Normal Life Please!!)
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To: Melinator2
well in this case, if you think about it, green does mean go, so the observer is not misinformed.

I don't think your proposal is practical or beneficial enough to bother implementing, but I would suggest one major modification:

Instead of front-mounted Green lights, use the existing front-mounted Amber turn signals as your front brake light indicators.

Both front indicators will light up bright Amber, which will not be confused with the lower intensity amber when used as front marker lights. One will be lit solidly and the other blinking if both the turn signals and brakes are used simultaneously. This is exactly what is done with the rear Red tail lights on most trailers and older cars. low intensity for night time markers, bright flashing for turn indication, and solid bright for brake indicatikon.

Mimicking the same light functionality on the front of the car in Amber as is currently done in red on the rear of trailers and older cars makes more intuitive sense to a driver than Green lights.

I also think that it would have much higher driver acceptance, since you're not introducing a whole new color to the automotive lighting scheme.

77 posted on 02/13/2021 4:43:16 PM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Melinator2

The cheese in the refrigerator turned green before I was finished with 10% of this article.


78 posted on 02/13/2021 4:43:24 PM PST by certrtwngnut (4- Do something,,,,even if it's wrong.)
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To: Melinator2
I'll run this idea past my engineer friend, although he mostly doesn't like anything new. ;)

Green lenses are found in boats' navigation lights—if that helps. :)

79 posted on 02/13/2021 4:46:09 PM PST by Does so (The Media is the enemy of the people...Trial lawyers close behind...)
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To: Real Cynic No More

so it does make sense. So much that you wonder if it has ever been tested. Is it possible that much like signal lights on both front and back, it contributes to more available and usable info transmitted at light speed . Just like any other signal light. While you have 50 years, perhaps you never thought of this before and are just now starting to examine the idea. I think if you look very closely at certain assumptions you are making you will find there is at least a case to be investigated here


80 posted on 02/13/2021 4:47:09 PM PST by Melinator2 (Normal Life Please!!)
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