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To: Jacquerie
It has long been obvious to me, that the 17th removed a check and balance of the states, and since the 17th was adopted, the federal government and its powers have grown and states' powers have dwindled.

But what do to do about it? I recently changed my mind about making political arguments based on the US Constitution, opting for a nationalist/populist approach that has been fundamental to MAGA success. Making constitutional arguments, I have discovered, falls on deaf ears. It is fine to be firmly rooted in the US Constitution, and to have disagreements with certain amendments, including the 17th. But how do you get through to the masses that have zero background in civics to motivate them about a change to the US Constitution?

2 posted on 04/17/2021 2:11:59 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ConservativeInPA
how do you get through to the masses that have zero background in civics to motivate them about a change to the US Constitution?

By sidestepping that issue. Embedded in the problem to Constitutional restoration is a diseased education system that makes that part of the electorate dysfunctional. Thus, not enough of the electorate can be awakened with persuasion.

Another approach is to catch the bad actors in the government in the act of treason, arrest them all, try them and remove them from power. The whole cabal, at once. Kind of like a mother-of-all Sting Operations.

To do this, groom a citizen to become POTUS, who would work with the military, over say the course of four years. Become ever popular with American Citizens, while driving mad the media, the bad actors, and so on to the point where they'd steal any bid for re-election. But, the Sting was on, and catches them.

I know, sounds far fetched, pie-in-the-sky kind of thing.

One can dream...

3 posted on 04/17/2021 2:23:10 PM PDT by C210N (You can trust government or you can understand history. But you CANNOT do both.)
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To: ConservativeInPA; C210N; precisionshootist

<>But how do you get through to the masses that have zero background in civics to motivate them about a change to the US Constitution?<>

I don’t believe the great body of the people of the US are as corrupted and ignorant as Article V opponents (not you) assume. IIRC, James Madison wrote to the effect that the typical ploughman recognizes bad government, and as polls have shown, most believe the 2020 election was stolen. Hostility, I suspect, grows against the Obiden admin every day.

To your point, once a few states sue congress to call an Article V convention (the states have submitted hundreds of applications) it will be something of Black Swan event for The Swamp. When they react, in the negative, it will generate a tsunami of debate over first American principles of government. People who have never read the Constitution just might educate themselves.

Now, if only President Trump would lead the Article V COS movement . . .


5 posted on 04/17/2021 2:50:42 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I’m not aware of anything nationalist that is superior to the Constitution.

Especially when you factor in left wing nationalists. The constitution is just simply superior and that’s that.


6 posted on 04/17/2021 3:03:54 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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