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100% agree however I see no way that is going to happen. That would take a legitimate functioning government of the people and that ended with the successful coup in Nov of last year. The people that did this are Communists, they are criminals and they are traitors. History tells us very clearly they are not going to leave peacefully. I'm not advocating anything. I'm just saying it's too late to vote ourselves out of this mess. The only voting that matters from here out is within individual states. States where people want to live free are going to have to nullify and codify the federal government out of their business to the point of eventually becoming independent. In other words, I think we are destined to fracture into two separate nations.

I think this will be very clear in a year or so when Republicans lose even more seats in both the house and senate. The Commies will move forward with packing the supreme court then any Commie law they pass will stand up in the highest court.

I hope I'm wrong but I'm not aware of any history that supports the notion we can save this republic as it is today.

<>I hope I'm wrong but I'm not aware of any history that supports the notion we can save this republic as it is today<>

Perhaps not. You might wish to check out Machiavelli's "Discourses on Livy," in which he examines the fate of republics. He's one of my favorite authors.

From To Retrieve Free Government:

Machiavelli found that even when a few wise laws are passed, corrupt institutions in society and government will turn the law away from their intended, good purposes.

To possibly recover, one of two things must happen. Either prudent men along the way step in to introduce reforms as incremental corruption is detected, or a large single stroke of reform is necessary when the debasement of society and government is evident to all. Since the republic in his discussion is already thoroughly corrupt, it would appear that the first of his possible solutions has been overcome by events.