The objection seems to rest on the fact that the vaccines will introduce the novel spike protein used by COVID-19 to infect people in order to provoke an immune response. There is speculation about the unknown damage this might cause.
I would speculate the amount of spike protein introduced by the vaccine is a tiny portion of that produced by an actual infection. They don't seem to focus on that.
The tort industry starting to get cranked up to get their beaks into the trough ?!?
After administering 100 million plus doses, there are now probably the most thoroughly tested vaccines of all time.
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The missing factor is time. We don’t yet know long term effects. Long term being years.
You are confused. Administering doses is in no way testing the vaccine. This is the least tested of any vaccine ever administered to a large population. It will be 3-5 years before we gain any knowledge about the morbidity & mortality. Read up on thalidomide.
And you develop antibodies that lead to the roral destruction of said spikes so...
How does that work when it's only been a matter of months since millions have been injected? 5 years from now might be a whole different story in regards to these experimental vaccines. Will there be side effects over time? No one knows.
“I would speculate”
SPECULATE. If your a small rodent or a cat with 9 lives, putting speculative new drug into your system is no problem. If not, that really nuts.
Administering is not the same as testing.
You forgot to sign your real name and list your medical credentials.
The Salk Institute seems to think the damage caused by corona’s is more vascular that respiratory. Respiratory is filled with vascular for obvious reasons.
Yeah, and they told our soldiers that Agent Orange was safe and posed no concern.
Would you care to detail your medical background since you are “speculating” about medical things?
I am glad that they are quoting an orthopod as one of their experts. This is more crap from assembled antivaxxers. Certainly entitled to their opinion but also the scrutiny of their statements.
Hundreds of millions of vaccines. Overwhelming success in highly vaccinated populations. Almost minimal side effects. Yes there is a one in several million chance of life threatening thrombus. But much less than the possibility of death from Covid.
The pearl clutches are out in force. This is not a scientific paper. This is a political statement.
Some people will die or have serious complications from getting the vaccine. But the short term risk is far far less than if they get Covid.
Long term effects of either the vaccine or getting covid is anyone's guess. But I read that they have tested the MRNA technology for 20 years in animals and 10 years in human clinical trials.
I'm still hermitting and haven't gotten vaccinated yet. But not everyone has that option or is comfortable as I am at hermitting.
The most thoroughly test vaccines of all time? WTF are you smoking?
Testing something for 3 months is not exactly testing. Get back to me in 3-5 years and let me know how those 100 million people are doing. Then you can make that assertion.
BTW: That’s EXACTLY what the drug companies wanted. A bunch of free testers with no risk of financial costs if harm is caused.
Well, except that an actual trial has things like control groups.
At this time what we’ve got is a lot of human test subjects not involved in any formal study.
“I would speculate the amount of spike protein introduced by the vaccine is a tiny portion of that produced by an actual infection. They don’t seem to focus on that.”
It seems many people are speculating! Those who shut down our economy for a flu-like disease where you have a .03% of dying and those 57 medical professionals who signed that letter.
Are you a medical doctor in epidemiology with the credentials to speculate? Otherwise, you are just another speculator.
After administering 100 million plus doses, there are now probably the most thoroughly tested vaccines of all time.
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No. They are not.
“Testing” would involve data collection and objective analysis of experiences following injection.
What we have is data suppression and a lack of data collection. These unwitting ‘lab rats’ are not being evaluated, their negative reactions to vaccination are being denied, suppressed.
No one in authority is concerned - they want silence and more vaccinations no matter what.
They have lied about Covid-19 and are lying about the ‘vaccines’. This isn’t a ‘test’. It’s an attack.
No speculation. It's been experimentally shown the spike protein can cause abnormal clotting even without the virus present.
And more and more publications are talking about the biophysical mechanisms OF observed damage, including such things as release of inflammatory signaling molecules when the spike interacts with ACE2 receptors; damage to endothelial cells in the bloodstream (mouse experiments have shown material from injections in different tissues/organs all throughout the body within 24 hours after injection); the ability of the spike protein in the lipid capsule to penetrate the blood/brain barrier...just off the top of my head.
Incidentally, VAERS has had more deaths reported in association with (yes, I am using the correct technical language, and am aware of the distinction) COVID mRNA jabs, in less than a year, than any other real vaccine during the lifetime of VAERS, and some posters have claimed, more than all vaccines put together.
Dr. Harvard Medical School’s Dr. Martin Kulldorff, who got thrown OFF the advisory board for wanting to keep JNJ *on* the market (in other words, HARVARD MED AND NOT ANTI-VAXXER), wants the vaccines to go only to those over 70 with existing co-morbidities, specifically because the risk of abnormal blood clots is so much higher for younger patients; and all the while Pfizer is bragging that booster shots will be a significant source of revenue going forward and trying to give the jab to kids as young as (IIRC) 12 years old).
“... the most thoroughly tested vaccines of all time.”
Say what?
How is a vaccine that was concocted less than a year ago, thoroughly tested? Because 100M test rats have been injected? That’s the only result you could possibly have, as a “thorough test” would certainly require time as an element.
This vaccine is totally untested, and only a fool or a sheep would allow it to be injected, until two to five years of real test results were in.