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To: A.M. Smith
"The first is that governments and the vast majority of the mainstream media are pushing with all their might to get these experimental drugs into as many people as possible."

And stigmatize, marginalize, even criminalize those who resist and raise questions.

What I can't make up my mind about is whether this is because there is something in the current vaccines that is there for some reason other than the vaccines' ostensible purpose, or whether this is a trial run to set a precedent for something further down the road.
5 posted on 05/08/2021 4:37:03 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

Well said, my thinking too.


6 posted on 05/08/2021 4:38:55 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Steve_Seattle

Could be both.


11 posted on 05/08/2021 4:46:19 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Told my doc I was waiting...he is an MD with a Naturapathic bent, and also has a Master’s in Epidemiology. ..and got the shots!!


12 posted on 05/08/2021 4:46:28 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: Steve_Seattle

I believe it is a trial run. They know there will be a lot of scrutiny. They are just getting a feel for how much fear they have to induce before pulling out a “savior” drug or vaccine. They know once they’ve done it once - gotten people to surrender their freedoms and take experimental treatments - the next time will be easier. The real bad news is yet to come.


14 posted on 05/08/2021 4:48:25 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

The end game is total control of the entire population. The vaccine is the first step. Pretty soon the people will be dancing at the end of the governments’ strings, doing whatever the government demands to keep in good graces with the government.


19 posted on 05/08/2021 4:54:23 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (“Unlimited power in the hands of limited people always leads to cruelty.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn,)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Amen!!


45 posted on 05/08/2021 5:13:04 PM PDT by upchuck (Corporations don’t pay taxes. They collect them. From us. ~ h/t Little Ray)
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To: Steve_Seattle
whether this is a trial run to set a precedent for something further down the road

That is my view.

They are doing obedience testing and training for the herd--learning what works and what does not...learning what percentage of people are influenced in different ways.

This is a modern electronic version of the old CIA mind control experiments.
66 posted on 05/08/2021 5:38:04 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Nailed it!


69 posted on 05/08/2021 5:45:00 PM PDT by Whatever Works
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To: Steve_Seattle

“...or whether this is a trial run to set a precedent for something further down the road.”

Steve-o! Dude!

It’s Socialist Democrats running the show now. It’s ALWAYS a ‘Trial Balloon’ for them - on ANY subject or situation that takes away or blocks/denies our God & Constitutionally given RIGHTS!


116 posted on 05/08/2021 6:32:36 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Steve_Seattle

Irregardless the good Anesthesiologists, most of the non vax people are not hoping for the worse. It’s that this entire shit doesn’t make sense. It wasn’t a novel virus. It was created in CCP. the vax was super quick (clinical trials started feb 25 2020 - go look at the timeline, it was on the shelf). The US political elite used it to scam an election. They killed the economy, used non existent powers in counties, states, and federal governments, used fear to persuade to the vax - yet anyone who says WTF are anti science, anti vaccine, ....

I still want to know WTF HAPPENED. My life is immaterial in a way. It doesn’t add up. Right now if the Fed gov said not to jump off a cliff, I might jump.

I hope the 70% vac people are safe, I hope the 30% non vac are 99.9% safe. That is ultimately the best scenario to not have all our hopes on one side.

Why can’t people see the best probability. The vax beyond all reason are wrong, the anti vax beyond all reason are wrong. We must have people on both sides to look back and see what’s best. This is probably the best solution. No one (with no health issues) under 35 should be vaxed. It’s statistically stupid.

I’m being long winded. It would be easy for a rational virologist to look at the infectious rates and come up with the optimal balance but no one does. Therefore I, in spite of my entire family ;) is the sole remaining controls group.

I’m under 55, good health.... I enter into this with a full understanding and under free will. No one has bribed Mitch drugs, food, $, job, fear, coercion, ... to remain in the control group. Can the vax group Say the same? NO THEY CANT.

I am ranting to no one but damn this stinks bad.


207 posted on 05/08/2021 8:50:34 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Tag line for rent. )
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To: Steve_Seattle

whether this is a trial run to set a precedent for something further down the road.
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I do believe we are, as you say, being “tested”, or set up to see how far they can go. Disease/ pandemics run in historical cycles, we have just entered this cycle....increasing into 2024. They were able to shut down the world economy over a virus with a 99.8 percent survival rate, imagine what they can achieve if a real killer emerges/ is unleashed? .....t.o.t.a.l control.


279 posted on 05/09/2021 12:25:03 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Steve_Seattle
What I can't make up my mind about is whether this is because there is something in the current vaccines that is there for some reason other than the vaccines' ostensible purpose, or whether this is a trial run to set a precedent for something further down the road.

(Pulls jaunty tin foil boonie cap firmly into position) It is an open secret that the Agenda 21 folks have a depopulation plan. The 21 stands for the year 2021. One could speculate that the jab is part of a binary means of doing this, with the WuFlu being the other part - the thing needed to scare people into taking the jab. OR, the jab is needed in order for the next round - call it WuFlu 2 - to really trigger an autoimmune reaction that kills the host.

And maybe the jab is just a jab, but an expensive and not particularly effective one, but hey, government contract for Big Pharma.

(takes boonie off, no, wait, keeps it on. Sunny today.)

308 posted on 05/09/2021 5:38:35 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Steve_Seattle

I haven’t been vaccinated . Last night I dreamed I had COVID and was being hunted like a criminal . Seriously .


413 posted on 05/10/2021 5:09:52 AM PDT by katykelly
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