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World War II Chronicle: June 27, 1941
Unto the Breach ^ | June 27, 2021 | Chris Carter

Posted on 06/27/2021 2:31:48 PM PDT by fugazi

The "Europe and Back" bomber

The monstrous XB-19 made its maiden flight today at Santa Monica, Calif.. Douglas' long-range bomber prototype had a 212-foot wingspan, longer than today's B-52 Stratofortress (185') or a Boeing 747 (195'). Designers boasted it had a 5,000-mile combat range -- meaning it could take off from the United States, bomb targets in occupied Europe, then return to the U.S.. Ferry trips could cover well over 7,000 miles (New York City to Moscow is less than 5,000) and the plane could remain aloft for 55 hours.

The world's largest and most powerful aircraft of its time was sure impressive on paper, but the B-19 never became operational. The war ended before it was ready, and plans to convert the bomber into a cargo ship were eventually scrapped. Click here for the October 1940 edition of Popular Science, which features the B-19.

The Streak

Joe DiMaggio went 2-for-3 off Philadelphia Athletics hurler Chubby Dean, extending his hitting streak to 39, just four games away from "Wee" Willy Keeler's record. DiMaggio hit a two-run home run with two outs in the seventh inning, walked twice, and defensively, got an outfield assist by throwing Dean out at second.

[caption id="attachment_13385" align="aligncenter" width="543"] Illustration by Dan Berryman[/caption]

Dean, who also knocked in two runs as the A's defeated the Yanks 7-6, is picked up by the Indians later in the season. Dean joins the service in 1943, playing baseball for Army Air Corps and serving in the Pacific Theater.

DiMaggio’s Record Chase (June 27, 1941)

  1. Willie Keeler 45 (1896-97)
  2. Bill Dahlen 42 (1894)
  3. George Sisler 41 (1922)
  4. Ty Cobb 40 (1911)
  5. Joe DiMaggio 39

Click here to read today's paper



TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aviation; militaryhistory; ww2
It would be interesting to find an economic study on bomber production. How big is too big (the amounts of fuel and aircrew lost when your bomber becomes a hard-to-miss target for enemy pilots and AA gunners? The B-17 was half the size of the B-19, but what is the point on the curve where a more economically produced airframe would become too small for strategic bombing?

Like how the Navy establishment loved battleships. But there weren't any glorious old-fashioned battleship-versus-battleship shootouts during the second world war but we had an incredible amount of bang for our buck from the rather less glamorous destroyers.

1 posted on 06/27/2021 2:31:48 PM PDT by fugazi
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To: fugazi

The B-36 comes to mind as too big, too complicated, and an easy target for early Russian fighters.


2 posted on 06/27/2021 2:43:50 PM PDT by doorgunner69 ("Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: fugazi
B-19 Cockpit https://jalopnik.com/americas-real-wwii-flying-fortress-was-the-massive-doug-1632864365
3 posted on 06/27/2021 2:48:01 PM PDT by DFG
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To: fugazi

Rtmrmber when it was display3ed at Chicago’s then named Municipal (later named Midway) airport


4 posted on 06/27/2021 2:48:36 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (AKA Lee J Keslin posting in the hopes comments get passed around )
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To: fugazi
B-19--Slim & Slam (1941)
5 posted on 06/27/2021 2:50:14 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: DFG

Holy crap!


6 posted on 06/27/2021 2:51:06 PM PDT by White Lives Matter
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To: doorgunner69

My great-uncle flew on a Peacemaker. “Six (engines) turning and four burning.” Or as some crews said, “two turning, two burning, two smoking, two choking and two more unaccounted for.”

On the subject of economy, the B-36 illustrates the principle that it’s better to have a few really dependable engines than it is to have a lot of questionable ones.


7 posted on 06/27/2021 2:52:05 PM PDT by fugazi
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To: fugazi

It would appear that the B-19 lost out to the B-36, an even bigger and longer ranged bomber that was based, like Howard Hughes ‘Spruce Goose’ on UK loss to Germany. 230ft wingspan, 6 piston engines (initially) and a 10,000 mile range, it went into service for the USAF / SAC in 1949. The boast / gripe was that it only landed to reenlist the aircrew. The Jimmy Stewart movie “Strategic Air Command” (1955) was almost a documentary about this amazing US Bomber.


8 posted on 06/27/2021 2:52:41 PM PDT by SES1066 (Ask not what the LEFT can do for you, rather ask what the LEFT is doing to YOU!)
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To: fugazi

There was a battleship-to-battleship shootout at the Battle of the Surigao Strait in 1944.


9 posted on 06/27/2021 2:52:44 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: fugazi

Best kept secret of WW2? A Mosquito had the same bomb load capability as a B-17.


10 posted on 06/27/2021 2:54:37 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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To: SES1066; fugazi

Clip from Strategic Air Command

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1-urTRxeEM

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


11 posted on 06/27/2021 2:59:37 PM PDT by alfa6 ( )
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To: fugazi

...there weren’t any glorious old-fashioned battleship-versus-battleship shootouts...


What about Washington vs. Kirishima?

https://www.historylink.org/File/7128

http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/Our_Culture/one_marine_one_ship.htm


12 posted on 06/27/2021 3:38:21 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Fiji Hill
There was also Bismark vs Prince of Wales and Hood in 1941.
13 posted on 06/27/2021 5:13:35 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Fiji Hill; fugazi
Also the Second Battle of Guadalcanal ...

Washington and South Dakota
versus
Kirishima

14 posted on 06/27/2021 5:23:08 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Orchides Forum Trahite - Cordes Et Mentes Veniant)
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To: Fiji Hill
"There was a battleship-to-battleship shootout at the Battle of the Surigao Strait in 1944."

Correct...

15 posted on 06/27/2021 6:16:07 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: Fiji Hill

USS West Virginia BB-48 fired 91 16”/45 AP projectiles during the battle.


16 posted on 06/28/2021 3:29:53 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe
USS West Virginia was heavily damaged at Pearl Harbor, as was USS California, which was also took part in the battle.
17 posted on 06/28/2021 7:31:29 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

“heavily damaged” is an understatement. Both were sunk.

An interesting note: The engineering departments of both West Virginia and California were crewed by surviving engineers from USS Yorktown, after she was sunk at Midway.
those snipes with names starting with A through M went to West Virginia, those with names starting with N through Z went to California. My dad went to West Virginia.


18 posted on 06/28/2021 1:52:41 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe
The ships were sunk but not totalled, unlike Oklahoma, Arizona and Utah. They were back in action after being repaired and modernized.
19 posted on 06/28/2021 1:59:24 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Bull Snipe

Kind of like when I went through Mech fundamentals
at Memphis in 1965.
One day the instructors came in and said everbody
on the left side of the room is a hydraulics man
and every body on the right side is a metal smith.
USMC nothing like it.


20 posted on 06/28/2021 2:00:41 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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