Posted on 01/04/2022 3:57:49 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
The so-called experts that they trot out on Big Media have beaten the ‘safe and effective’ vaccine drum for so long that many actually believe what they are saying is true.
Well, we’ve all heard the phrase ‘none of us is as smart as all of us,’ and the crowdsourced data in the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) completely dispels that narrative.
(Excerpt) Read more at redvoicemedia.com ...
The above numbers are only the ones that are being reported.
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Thanks for the follow-up!
Safe and effective........it’s their narrative and they are sticking to it.
When are they going to pull the shots?
Vaccines have been pulled over 25 deaths.
I am not stating the info is not valid just what does anyone do with it? I know side effects have to be underreported as well because not many even know about the database.
The CDC is supposed to investigate every claim and deduce whether or not it is credible. I’ve heard they’re seriously backed up at the moment.
No doubt due to COVID.
ROTFLMAO
And could we not say this list represents about 10% of the actual numbers?
An absolute tragedy of gargantuan proportions.
That’s NOT what VAERS shows.
Go do your own queries (I did). Here’s what VAERS ACTUALLY shows (as of this past weekend):
8,489 records with “death” as an outcome (2020 + 2021 combined).
3,945 (not “1,000,000+”) “Serious” outcomes (defined as other than “Death” or “Office Visit”) - same time period.
I have no idea where this nonsense about “1,000,000+” serious outcomes is coming from, but that is NOT what is in VAERS.
Go do your own queries. Quit believing memes you read on the Internet and do some actual research.
PS: Whacky conspiracy websites from people pushing an agenda with made up numbers do not count. Go do the actual query on the actual source data (VAERS itself). Post your query criteria. I did this last weekend against the ACTUAL SOURCE DATA on CDC Wonder, and the results I got are what I stated above.
Prove me wrong - but do so with directly sourced data FROM VAERS. Not some website that claims it is reporting on VAERS or “has a VAERS data dump”. VAERS. ITSELF. If you do search VAERS directly via the CDC Wonder website, you’ll find that all of this is utter and complete nonsense.
Here you go:
The reporting requirements for COVID-19 vaccines are the same for those authorized under emergency use or fully approved. Healthcare providers who administer COVID-19 vaccines are required by law to report to VAERS the following after vaccination:
Vaccine administration errors, whether or not associated with an adverse event (AE):
If the incorrect mRNA COVID-19 vaccine product was inadvertently administered for a second dose in a 2-dose series, VAERS reporting is required.
If a different product from the primary series is inadvertently administered for the additional or booster (third dose), VAERS reporting is required.
VAERS reporting is not required for the following situations:
If a mixed series is given intentionally (e.g., due to hypersensitivity to a vaccine ingredient)
Mixing and matching of booster doses (as of October 21, 2021, mixing and matching of booster doses is allowed)
Serious AEs regardless of causality. Serious AEs per FDA are defined as:
Death
A life-threatening AE
Inpatient hospitalization or prolongation of existing hospitalization
A persistent or significant incapacity or substantial disruption of the ability to conduct normal life functions
A congenital anomaly/birth defect
An important medical event that based on appropriate medical judgement may jeopardize the individual and may require medical or surgical intervention to prevent one of the outcomes listed above
Cases of Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome
Cases of COVID-19 that result in hospitalization or death
Healthcare providers are encouraged to report to VAERS any additional clinically significant AEs following vaccination, even if they are not sure whether vaccination caused the event.
Also, healthcare providers should report any additional selected AEs and/or any revised safety reporting requirements per FDA’s conditions of authorized use of vaccine(s) throughout the duration of any COVID-19 vaccine’s Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) or any approved COVID-19 vaccine as outlined in the Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers.
If a 93-year-old man who was diagnosed with CHF five years ago dies after getting the vaccine, his doctor has to report it. Even if he would have died anyway.
An 88-year-old nursing home patient suffers a stroke after being vaccinated. The nursing home must report it, even if the patient was at high risk for stroke before the vaccine.
An 86-year-old patient has a sore arm and feels so shaky and fatigued she mostly stays in bed for four days after vaccination, unable to go to the dining room and attend her usual activities. The nursing home reports it. (The vaccine may well have caused it.)
A 47-year-old woman is diagnosed with acute kidney failure after getting the vaccine. Her doctor must report it, regardless of his opinion on the cause.
Most reports are submitted by healthcare providers based on a doctor’s diagnosis or observation and therefore do not need to be verified. Reports submitted by private individuals would either be too mild to require serious medical attention — or they would be duplicate reports, as the healthcare provider would have submitted a report as well, as required by law. There is a system in place to weed out duplicates.
You can poke around here, if you like, to see what they say:
https://vaers.hhs.gov/faq.html
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/monitoring/vaers/index.html
However, as I pointed out on a earlier thread using this figures, the "problem" (insofar as making a case against being vaxxed) is that 21,002 deaths out of 244,947,293 full vaccinations (which includes doubles and triples) seems to calculate (Y is what % of X) to just 0.01%, and which is statically negligible (not that deaths do not matter). And adverse events are reports that the adverse event occurred some time after vaccination, not that they necessarily did. .
Even if you include all 1,000, 229 adverse events out of 244,947,293 full vaccinations then the rate comes to 0.41% which is hardly a headline shock.
And overall, including all known cases of Covid, as of 12/10/21, the Case Fatality Rate (CFR) — which is the percentage of Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. out of the total number of cases — is 1.6%, and which includes all people of all ages and conditions. Based on statistics from between the beginning of January 2020 until December 8, 2021,the CFR for those aged 0-64 who were tested as being infected with Covid and found or judged as having died from it, then the CFR is 0.56% (198,179 deaths out of 35,225,631 cases, or 1 out of 180). In contrast, for those ages 65 and up the CFR rises to 11.54% (590,089 deaths out of 5,111,458 cases, combined). For comparison, the odds of dying in a motor vehicle accident are 1 in 107 (0.93%) and your chances of getting into a motor vehicle accident are one in 366 (0.27%) for every 1,000 miles driven. And thus despite headlines of exceptions, for the young (and fit and healthy) the odds of dying from Covid-19 are very minimal.
That is, unless you are “quarantined” in the womb. since as the CDC reports, "in 2019, the abortion ratio was 195 abortions per 1,000 live births,” which means that the “pregnancy fatality rate” (PFR) is 19.5% (excluding spontaneous miscarriages among known pregnancies which are estimated to average approx. 15%). Thus to impose long-term severe restrictions and requirements in the interest of saving lives (yet which restrictions have their own deleterious effects) due to an infectious somewhat preventable disease, while actually fostering the death of the most vulnerable who are safely “quarantined” in the womb of their mother — as well as doing comparatively little to combat the leading Covid-19 comorbidities — is irrationally inconsistent.
I try to check the actual sources themselves. Examine my post 12 for accuracy. But no, i am not vaxxed, yet I have no had to see a medical doctor for about 40 years, by the grace of God (I did see an eye doc for a piece of rust in my eye about 1988).
It was the most secure election in history.
It's easy to lie to fools. Look around, there are many who still watch the evening news.
The criteria for a probably case of Covid is broad. See CDC Covid-19 case and death criteria
In the example, the old gentleman did not die of Covid. He died of heart failure after getting the vaccine. Whether the vaccine had anything to do with his death is a question. He may have died that day anyway, considering his longstanding disease. Or he may not have. Either way, it must be reported.
If medical providers are required by law to report all deaths and serious adverse events, why do you think they are not reporting them?
I am asking out of curiosity, not to be snarky.
"If medical providers are required by law to report all deaths and serious adverse events, why do you think they are not reporting them? I am asking out of curiosity, not to be snarky. "
No problem, as I did not even know they had to report all serious adverse vaccination events. However, as with my own neighbor, many do not report adverse events thus doctors do not know all such. But what I stated and substantiated was that the criteria for a probably case of Covid is broad. Meaning that death rates are likely inflated since the beginning of the pandemic, (and there is some financial incentive). Yet unlike deaths, in which medical personal are usually involved and ask questions about the health of the person that died, there are far more Covid cases than are reported.
How many of those events were as a result of the vaccine?
What's the background level of those events in the unvaccinated?
If you don't know, why can't we assume these events are actually less common among the vaccinated?
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/does-vaers-list-deaths-caused-by-covid-19-vaccines
VAERS is set up to capture potential adverse events caused by vaccines. It is the best tool we have to find what may be previously unrecognized and extraordinarily rare adverse events that may eventually be linked.
VAERS cannot and does not determine whether a vaccine caused something. The CDC states this clearly in their disclaimer: "A report to VAERS does not mean that the vaccine caused the adverse event, only that the adverse event occurred some time after vaccination." The disclaimer continues, "The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental or unverifiable."
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