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To: Jan_Sobieski

Per top of the page:

“And let’s be clear – the Ukrainian narrative of the events in Bucha seems to stretch credibility...”

If the very consistent Ukrainian narrative stretches credibility, then the constantly redefined Russian narrative shatters credibility.

Russia has gone from telling its people that Ukraine had no defensive clout beyond the 8000 Nazis in Azov in the Donbass, to bombing cities in the west of Ukraine and destabilising Chernobyl because, er, all those mothers with kids and those nuclear plant safety workers are Nazis???

Originally Nazis were just Azov and other active Nazi groups. Now, anyone of any age who feels more Ukrainian or European than they feel Russian is a Nazi too. Native Russian speakers were the victims of Ukrainian oppression in February; today they’re the enemy if they are not pro invasion.

What does Russia have to gain? Ye gods! Its simple.

This war is not, never has been, and will never be, about “protecting” even Russian civilians let alone Ukrainian ones.

Russia is only after the raw resources in Ukraine. It absolutely doesn’t want the Ukrainian people, their distinctive culture, their art or their separate national identity to survive.

Show me one quote from the Kremlin propaganda in the last five years where they’ve had anything positive to say about their neighbor.

Putin hates Ukrainian EVERYTHING.

Russia only pretends it cares about Russian speakers in Ukraine so that useful idiots ger drawn into pathetic comparisons between the 5% of Uke troops pre invasion that might’ve been connected to nasty Azov Bandera folks and aren’t Russian speakers, and the 95% that were perfectly happy to be Ukrainians with many Russian ties who can speak both languages but don’t fancy being pulled back into a new USSR.

Russian action is completely consistent with an occupying NAZI force on the orders of a NAZI leader that is after the LEBENSRAUM not the UNTERMENSCH plays the “if you scum even look at us the wrong way we’ll kill a hundred of you” card.

The counter narrative that Ukraine has thousands of sucidal crisis actors, millions of Nazis (including kids now), and the capability to bomb Mariupol into rubble despite having no bombs or bombers and fewer than 5,000 professional Nazi boots on the ground... THAT is the sort of narrative that stretches credibility to breaking point.


63 posted on 04/06/2022 3:48:53 AM PDT by MalPearce
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To: MalPearce

Re: your comment 63,

Is that the old cold war mindset? Everything Russian bad, and a country that bombs its own citizens is just okay?


73 posted on 04/06/2022 4:50:12 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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