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Flashback: Two teens arrested in 'mass casualty' plot in 2018 targeting a Uvalde middle school
KENS5 ^

Posted on 05/26/2022 1:46:06 AM PDT by TigerClaws

Edited on 05/26/2022 7:55:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

One of the students had numerous writings and drawings which depicted weapons capable of causing mass destruction. He wrote about being "God-like" and killing police and other persons.

Two Uvalde teens were recently arrested for Conspiracy to Commit Murder after officers said they foiled a mass-shooting plot the pair had schemed. A press release obtained by KENS 5 thoroughly chronicles events leading up to an investigation performed by the Uvalde Police Department and the Texas Rangers.


(Excerpt) Read more at kens5.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: banglist; education; salvadorramos; texas; uvalde
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1 posted on 05/26/2022 1:46:06 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Was it the same kid???


2 posted on 05/26/2022 1:52:14 AM PDT by nbenyo
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To: nbenyo

>> Morales Junior High School student,14, and a former Morales student, 13, had specifically targeted numerous students

In 2018, 4 years ago...

What’s in the water @ Uvalde?


3 posted on 05/26/2022 1:55:51 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: TigerClaws

The sort of thing, if it’s the same guy, that maybe should have come up in a background check when he bought an AR-15 the day after his 18th birthday.


4 posted on 05/26/2022 1:56:03 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: TigerClaws

Good find. Very peculiar.


5 posted on 05/26/2022 2:00:39 AM PDT by Lazamataz (ELON MUSK IS THE CORPORATE VERSION OF DONALD TRUMP!)
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To: Gene Eric

Fours years ago makes them 18 or so - same age as the recent killer. Agree with a Freeper that posted a day or more ago that these minors with certain crimes should be prosecuted and put on a list.


6 posted on 05/26/2022 2:04:14 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Gene Eric; All

Another report from the step dad says Ramos and a friend would ride around shooting people with BB guns. Might be the other kid mentioned in this story.

14 back in 2018. 18 year old psycho now shoots up a school in that same town. Likely Ramos was the kid referenced in this story.

Yet …
1. He’s not on any watch list that’d impede him buying a gun…

2. He lives with his grandfather who, because of a felony convocation, can’t legally own a gun and that doesn’t red flag the sale

3. LEOs had a specific threat and year for a threat. Where was the training? The current training is go in and kill the killer because he won’t stop. Don’t wait. Engage.

They instead set up police tape and detained at least one mother trying to go save her child.

Who gave the stand down order?

Apparently one border patrol agent ignored the order and went in solo and killed the killer.


7 posted on 05/26/2022 2:12:38 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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>> Who gave the stand down order?

Recently, I commented about the likelihood of mass casualties intentionally facilitated by policy decisions.

AFAIC, it’s reasonable to surmise there are expected outcomes when no inhibiting factors are setup to prevent the outcomes — outcomes that are reasonably predictable such as school shootings.

In other words, the Rats have no problem sacrificing children in their goal to disarm the citizens.

The Country has a nasty Rat infestation.


8 posted on 05/26/2022 2:29:02 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: TigerClaws
Wow. Too coincidental.

>"a Morales Junior High School student, 14, and a former Morales student, 13"<

The killer's 18th birthday was May 16, and the above article was published May 3 four years ago.

So, the killer would've been 13 when that article was published... right? (Or am I still half-asleep?)

For the record, I'm not saying either one was the killer. Just pointing out the killer would've been 13.

Twitter users say he grew up in Uvalde and went to school there. Morales Jr. High is the only school there for grades 7-8. Wikipedia

And people who knew him claim he had trouble in 8th grade.

9 posted on 05/26/2022 2:29:16 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

One of the two was 13 per the report.

The stepdad said Ramos and a buddy would ride around firing bB guns at people. Perhaps that’s the other child referenced in the article. So he clearly wasn’t friendless.

Given the psychiatric history would he be on Prozac Zoloft and all the other meds every major mass shooter has been on for the last twenty years?

If he’s on those meds, is he prohibited from purchasing firearms?

The initial story he killed his grandmother also isn’t true. She’s expected to survive. He also didn’t shoot her after an argument as he told someone online an hour before what he was planning to do.

A Texas officer on one comment board said the new training is to immediately engage an active shooter. The stand down order had to have been given by “the suits” but we don’t yet know who gave the order for 40 LEOs to wait outside and put up police tape and arrest parents who complained.


10 posted on 05/26/2022 2:37:43 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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"One of the two was 13 per the report."

Yeah, I was thinking Ramos would've been the 13yo student, instead of the 14yo.

The 13yo was described as a "former" student, though. (Expelled?)

But, even if Ramos wasn't one of those students, he would've been in school with them.

If he wasn't one of those students, was he friends with them? Was he part of the plot?

The whole thing is just too coincidental.

11 posted on 05/26/2022 2:47:38 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: TigerClaws

I am still struggling to put together the timeline for this incident.
Did the border patrol agent, the one who shot the perp, confront him before he entered the school?
This information about a threat 4 years ago makes your skin crawl.
Did the STOPit ap break?
There was a parent who lost a child at Sandy Hook on Tucker who gave great guidelines about early intervention and protocol. Name?


12 posted on 05/26/2022 2:54:44 AM PDT by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos.)
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To: TigerClaws

Train and arm the faculty staff. Put a sign on the entrance-”Faculty and staff armed and trained.” It works in Florida. It is cheaper and more effective than obvious armed guards. If there is a cop at the door the shooter only needs to shoot him first. He can’t know which teachers have and can use guns.


13 posted on 05/26/2022 2:55:04 AM PDT by arthurus (| covfefe fe)
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To: TigerClaws

Most news reports don’t credit the BP, saying that police went and shot the killer. BP doig the job is NOT WOKE!


14 posted on 05/26/2022 2:57:27 AM PDT by arthurus (| covfefe fel)
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All this a few days before Trump is to speak to the NRA convention in Texas.

It’s almost like you couldn’t make up a scenario that politically useful for Democrats.

Story they engaged the shooter - who was not wearing body armor - before he got inside the school.

https://www.newsweek.com/officers-engaged-gunman-before-mass-shooting-1709870


15 posted on 05/26/2022 3:02:36 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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If they armed and trained the staff, they couldn’t use the dead bodies of children to curtail our Second Amendment rights.

These are the folks celebrating killing babies - in and outside the womb. Think they aren’t willing to sacrifice anyone to further their agenda?


16 posted on 05/26/2022 3:04:36 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: babble-on

The problem is that, because both boys were minors, any record they may have had would either have been erased or hidden.

I know it’s to protect stupid, impulsive teenagers from being followed by a foolish act all their lives, but what these kids were talking about doing wasn’t like stealing chewing gum from the local 7-11.

In virtually all of these young male mass-shooting cases, the shooter has talked openly about it earlier, has attracted attention because of his obviously nutty behavior or appearance, and has committed smaller acts of violence (killing small animals, for example, or shooting at random pedestrians with a BB gun).

Not only are they rarely forced into residential treatment, even when they are, no record is kept or made available later. There’s no way a legitimate gun dealer can find a record of hospitalizations, arrests, treatments, medications etc.that might prevent him from selling a gun to one of these walking time bombs.

This has only gotten worse with that idiotic shut down, which gave these nutcases two years to fester outside of anybody’s sight and two years of isolation to secretly nourish their fantasies.

They can pass all the gun control laws they want, but it won’t do any good unless there’s some kind of “control” of the mentally ill, especially the mentally ill adolescent.


17 posted on 05/26/2022 3:31:18 AM PDT by livius
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I think you are right. I would support a rather massive government bill to re-build the US mental health infrastructure, and to integrate it with a serious gun control registry to allow gun dealers simply check for red flags.


18 posted on 05/26/2022 3:34:37 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: TigerClaws

What the hell is the water down there?


19 posted on 05/26/2022 3:45:45 AM PDT by spincaster
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To: Gene Eric
The Democrat/Communists have a firm grip on the mental health of our young boys and men. The school systems
throughout the country are strong proponents of neutering the males in their classrooms with Ritalin and Adderall.

When will the country wake up and see that these murder sprees are caused by young men who have been on ADHD meds for years?

20 posted on 05/26/2022 7:07:04 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is already under the tent.)
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