Posted on 07/05/2022 3:25:14 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
Stock up on staples.
And that independent trucker works when he wants. If he doesn’t want to, he’s free to turn down the load.
This is a stupid law designed to force people to unionize. It will backfire badly.
I’m not sure I understand the issue.
Why would they forbid Independent Truckers to subcontract with Trucking Companies?
Who is backing this bill, and why?
I am from GA. I don’t understand, can someone enlighten me in a few sentences, as the article is not very clear....
I think of it often when I encounter the summer patriots who quickly cave in to government oversight.
Another favorite is attributed to Jefferson. “I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery”
I agree with you and that’s one of my favorite quotations!
I don’t really know enough about how the trucking industry works to explain it properly. Maybe someone else here can enlighten us.
Why does the government have to get in the middle of a contractor and what contracts he chooses to make or accept. If I make a contract with one company for a period of time,after the contract period ends I can make another contract with the same person/company or another one. It’s my choice, unless I am a slave/subject of the government, then that’s different.
Let me see:
I have (at a minimum) close to half a million dollars invested in my CHOSEN method of earning a living, and some putz thinks I should just park it and take a position with what was my competition.
That way I become totally dependent on someone else’s scheduling, priorities and workload.
Sounds like a really good idea.
NOT!
They worked for MicroSoft for years in the same jobs and didn't get benefits, vacation, etc. Just a salary.
Someone complained and said these really aren't contractors, they are employees and should be treated as such. This was before Bill Gates become buddy-buddy with the FedGov.
Fast forward and a number of states are creating legislation that prevents companies from "exploiting" workers who behave like employees but are compensated as contractors. If you are truly an "independent contractor" then you have to work for a variety of companies, not just one.
Prop 5 is one of those laws that outlawed employees being treated as contractors. At first it meant that Uber and Lyft had to hire all of their workers as employees, but they somehow got an exemption. The truckers lobbied for an extension, but didn't get one.
With programmers or sys admins it can be difficult to work for many companies, especially if you are limited to using their equipment. Imagine having to set up your environment from scratch for each new gig.
However, I'm just asking some innocent questions of how hard it would be for independent truckers to work for multiple shippers/carriers rather than focus on one shipper and come under Prop 5 scrutiny.
If I'm an independent trucker and I have a good relationship with a particular shipper and I'm OK just receiving money with no benefits, and I'm OK with owning my own truck, buying my own gas and insurance, and handling all of the paperwork, then I can see why many of them would prefer to just do jobs for one shipper. However, with a bit more work and some coordination with fellow truckers, I'm thinking they could get around the Prop 5 limitations and keep on truckin'.
The bright side is - they have to pay for your health insurance!
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I work for myself and have to go through the Fed-controlled, state-run health care system. I had to go into urgent care last month and had a $250 co-pay. That is okay as we don’t go to the doctor much and I’m willing to pay the higher deductable to get a lower monthly rate.
The person in front of me paid $5. That is the co-pay for a Microsoft employee iirc. Boeing is $10 iirc.
Obamacare was just one more way for them to try to get rid of small businesses.
Thank you for that.
I really don’t see the difference here between working for an independent trucker working for a truck company, or a trucker hired by Manpower or other company who provides workers, except for the massive costs it would give to the truck companies, and the loss of wages to the truckers.
IOWs, the middle man, ie the job placement companies would be making more money.
It comes back to my initial question. Why are the going after the independent truckers. They are free to work for other companies, but decide to stay with one, must like perhaps a plumber working out of the union hall gets picked up by a company who likes his work ethic.
Instead of those employees getting jobs with different companies, they brought this to the attention of the FedGov who wasn't friendly with Bill Gates at the time.
The thinking is that a person isn't allowed to freely choose to be someone else's slave, nor is that person allowed to freely choose to be someone's indentured servant.
Contracting for a single company for an extended period of time and not being treated as an employee appears to some people as a form of indentured servitude.
You may disagree, but FedGov is becoming all powerful. If all you have to do is run a few jobs for some other shipper, rather than hoping that you'll get your way via the courts or some form of work stoppage, then maybe that's a better alternative.
The other way around it is to have the shippers split into two independent companies and alternate which one hires out the loads.
I come from a family that does contract work. I also do contract work. If I don’t like the work, leave. People depend all thier money and take out loans, then find themselves “indentured.” These are not the days of the company store. The government is not helping, but is part of the problem.
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Absolutely! That quote from Jefferson would have the shills at CNN/MSNBC stark raving mad as they demand “gun control”.
They have truck payments to make.
Is there a reason why many of these drivers can’t just go from being independent to salaried?”
Go from being free and independent to grow their business as they see fit to becoming a wage slave?
Trucks pull combinations of trailers in every state. Many times they are taken to company yards where trailers will be switched to other trucks for delivery to other states.
Due to the nature of the highways (level, straight and large distances between large cities) the states of Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota and Utah allow trucks to pull up to 3 53 foot trailers. Most other states allow up to 3 trailers of shorter lengths.
If you want to wade through the rules go here
https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freight/publications/size_regs_final_rpt/
Shipping using combinations of trailers has been great for business and has been good for interstate commerce.
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