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Gun Owners of America Sues ATF to Block New Definition of Frame or Receiver Rule
thetruthaboutguns.com ^ | July 6, 2022 | Dan Zimmerman

Posted on 07/07/2022 8:03:04 AM PDT by PROCON

John Crump at Ammoland reports that

Gun Owners of America (GOA), Bridge City Ordinance, and North Dakota resident Eliezer Jimenez have sued the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) over its new rule on unfinished frames and receivers.

After Joe Biden became president, he tasked the ATF to come up with new regulations surrounding privately manufactured firearms (PMF) and pistol stabilizing devices. Biden’s ATF unveiled new rules for a public comment period. Gun owners flooded the comments, but the Bureau moved forward and unveiled the new rules in the White House Rose Garden.

The rule is due to go into effect in late August. According to the new regulation, Americans can still build their own firearms, but it does make it almost impossible to get all the parts to build a gun. Frames and jigs cannot be sold together. If a gun owner buys the items separately, the ATF will consider that structuring the purchases to get around the new regulation.

The other big issue is that if a company sells a frame, and a second company sells a jig, and a customer buys the items from both companies, those companies can be charged with conspiracy. The ATF will charge both companies with conspiracy even if the companies are not connected in any way besides a customer using both sites to purchase items. The lawsuit challenges both of these points in the ATF’s final rule on PMF.

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1 posted on 07/07/2022 8:03:04 AM PDT by PROCON
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2 posted on 07/07/2022 8:03:34 AM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: PROCON

Perhaps someone with a better knowledge of the ATF’s statutory authority can answer this, but could that agency be challenged on the same basis that the EPA was challenged in the courts (and lost) about their authority to invent regulations?


3 posted on 07/07/2022 8:06:22 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: PROCON

Every, “Assault Weapon,” ban, every, “Red-Flag,” law, every, “Safe Gun Roster,” every magazine restriction, every ban on concealed carry anywhere, every law or ordinance that violates the opinion of the SCOTUS’s Bruen case needs to be followed swiftly by lawsuits.


4 posted on 07/07/2022 8:07:55 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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To: alancarp

I think the EPA ruling may apply here.


5 posted on 07/07/2022 8:10:22 AM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: alancarp
The real problem here is multifold:

1) The NFA '34 exists, in violation of the Constitution.

2) The GCA '68 exists, in violation of the Constitution.

3) The Hughes Amendment '86 exists, in violation of the Constitution.

4) The BATFE has an "F" and an "E" in its name, in violation of the Constitution.

6 posted on 07/07/2022 8:16:08 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: PROCON

I have been waiting for this. With the bruen ruling requiring strict scrutiny for anything relating to the second amendment I expect the courts to invalidate the batfe rules.


7 posted on 07/07/2022 8:24:11 AM PDT by Fellow Traveler
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To: PROCON

Their “rule change” is beyond their powers. Congress has written a LAW defining a frame or receiver You cannot change the law with an administrative rule change.


8 posted on 07/07/2022 8:28:50 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: PROCON

WV v EPA will be the basis for overturning this.


9 posted on 07/07/2022 8:32:11 AM PDT by Wizdum (Tyranny always ends badly for the tyrannical. Ask Ceaușescu, Gaddafi or Saddam.)
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To: alancarp

Yes, the EPA lost because it’s claim of power was beyond what Congress authorized. But the other alphabet agencies will pay no attention to it and the battles will have to be fought one agency at a time.


10 posted on 07/07/2022 8:35:07 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: PROCON
Never before in my lifetime has the true reason the second amendment is required been more apparent.

When you hand power to anyone, even if in the context of them having a limited tenure as a public servant (which is what all elected offices in America are supposed to be) you have to have a way to ensure that they do not abuse that power. When politicians and office holders forget that they serve for a limited time and at the pleasure of the citizens they serve, they become a threat to the personal freedom of the citizenry. The citizenry needs to have a way of protecting their personal freedoms.

This is particularly important when the citizenry have reason to mistrust the voting process, and when the ‘one person one vote’ paradigm falls victim to those who can appropriate an election with their personal money and influence (e.g. Soros, the entertainment industry, Gates, Zuckerberg, etc.).

11 posted on 07/07/2022 8:38:05 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: neverevergiveup

Just to be clear, I am not advocating for violence, nor advocating for the use of guns or any other weapon. That said, just like nuclear weapons are a horror that we hope to never use, and exist as a deterrent to those who would otherwise feel emboldened to take away the freedoms of a sovereign people, the second amendment is a deterrent against tyranny - and this was why it was codified into the Constitution.


12 posted on 07/07/2022 8:43:08 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: alancarp
Perhaps someone with a better knowledge of the ATF’s statutory authority can answer this, but could that agency be challenged on the same basis that the EPA was challenged in the courts (and lost) about their authority to invent regulations?

It very well could.

Before Ghost Guns became a 'thing,' the ATF ruled that the lower receiver of the AR rifle would be the "firearm" and be the serialized part.

There have been at least two court cases that I know of where the court threw out an indictment for having an unserialized AR lower because the law requiring serial numbers was unconstitutional vague.

Here's one such case: U.S. v. Jimenez

The parties' motion to dismiss briefing focused primarily on the issue of whether the meaning of "receiver" was unconstitutionally vague as applied to Jimenez. Defendant contends that nothing in the statutes or CFR gave him fair notice that possessing the lower receiver of an AR-15 rifle would count as the criminal possession of "the receiver." As a corollary, he argues that the lack of clear standards allows the ATF to engage in arbitrary enforcement practices.

So the ATF rulemaking was designed to eliminate the 'vague and arbitrary' definition of a receiver.

13 posted on 07/07/2022 8:44:38 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: neverevergiveup
At the time the Constitution was written, they didn't foresee the stranglehold of a standing army of "law enforcement" and the stranglehold of financial institutions which can lock you out and impoverish you at the push of a button.

At the time he Constitution was written, it was expected that every citizen could be an infantryman.

Today citizens don't have parity in firepower anymore. And any uppity citizen can be easily strangled financially. Look at what they amassed against Roger Stone.

14 posted on 07/07/2022 8:50:17 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Fellow Traveler
”With the bruen ruling requiring strict scrutiny …”

I think I now agree that the Bruen decision is better than you describe. Once it is decided that our Second Amendment rights are implicated, the decision goes to us regardless of any justification that the government may offer.

I would like to see a successful challenge to the requirement for serial numbers. That infringement alone has enabled much additional infringement.

15 posted on 07/07/2022 8:56:23 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: PROCON

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16 posted on 07/07/2022 9:00:11 AM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: alancarp
Perhaps someone with a better knowledge of the ATF’s statutory authority can answer this, but could that agency be challenged on the same basis that the EPA was challenged in the courts (and lost) about their authority to invent regulations?

These regulations are even more egregious. The EPA used an ambiguous section of the Clean Air Act to claim the power to enact a huge regulatory scheme.

The ATF's new regs simply dispense with the statutory definition of a firearm and substitute their own definition. Even without the Bruen or EPA decisions they had a good chance of being tossed: if it's not a firearm under the statutory definition (like a jig), they simply have no legal authority to regulate it.

It's like saying because a milling machine can be used to make a receiver, all milling machine sales must go through an FFL.

17 posted on 07/07/2022 9:07:01 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: PROCON

I don’t see any reason they can’t do this. I mean under Trump they arbitrarily decreed bump stocks illegal after specifically stating that they were legal for years. People were okay with that. Apparently they can just make up the rules as they go along.


18 posted on 07/07/2022 9:07:39 AM PDT by suthener ( )
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To: pierrem15

I approve of that analogy.


19 posted on 07/07/2022 9:09:19 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: Yo-Yo
The real problem is that in a strict reading of the 1968 GCA, an AR lower and upper are not a firearm until assembled, as neither one contains both the fire control mechanism and the bolt.

The lower receiver rule was created as a compromise with the manufacturers, gun owners and ATF.

20 posted on 07/07/2022 9:10:37 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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