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NEW GUN LAW: WILL YOU OBEY, WILL COPS ENFORCE?
boblonsberry.com ^ | 09/01/22 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 09/01/2022 6:06:28 AM PDT by shortstop

Don’t ask, don’t tell.

That’s how gun owners and law-enforcement officers should approach New York’s unconstitutional new gun law.

I won’t tell you what I’m carrying, and don’t you ask me what I have.

We may be the targets of illegal oppression, but we don’t have to be

accomplices to it.

Beginning today, carrying handguns is prohibited almost everywhere in the state of New York. They can’t be carried on public property, and they can’t be carried on private property unless the owner or lessee posts a large sign declaring that they are welcome.

When you eliminate public property and private property, that’s all property, and the New York concealed carry permit becomes meaningless anywhere but in your home and in your car – unless it’s parked in a school, hospital or government parking lot, where it’s illegal.

Two months after the United States Supreme Court said Americans have a constitutional right to carry a firearm outside their home for self-defense, Democrat Gov. Kathy Hochul and her party have eliminated that right in New York.

And so it falls to New York gun owners to obey the Democrat law, and it falls to New York police officers to enforce it. I wonder if they will, and I wonder if they should.

I wonder where their consciences will come down.

I wonder what citizens will decide as they weigh the right to self-defense against the duty to be law abiding. I wonder what police officers will decide as they weigh the part of their oath obligating them to enforce the law against the part of their oath obligating them to obey the Constitution.

And I wonder what officers will decide as they consider that their spouses and parents are stripped of the ability to defend themselves in a violent world by this new law. And I wonder what they think as they realize that they are themselves one edited cellphone video away from losing their jobs and their own ability to carry a gun to defend their families.

The governor is demanding obedience to a law which she herself passed in violation of law. She will not obey the Supreme Court, but we must obey her? We are to ignore a constitutional amendment passed in 1791, but we must obey a law pulled out of her Democrat ass at the end of June?

Is that what New York’s deputies and troopers and officers are being ordered to enforce? They will arrest their neighbors and friends for that?

A woman with a pistol permit who carries a firearm for self-defense becomes a felon because she has her hidden handgun with her while she does her grocery shopping? Or while she jogs through a park? Or goes out to dinner?

Did New York’s police officers take up their profession to put people like that in the back seat of the car? Is that why they carry handcuffs? Has their time in law enforcement taught them that there is no need for New Yorkers to be able to defend themselves?

Is New York law that sacrosanct that it must always be obeyed? Like the April 1st legal mandate to pass a state budget? Or is it just the citizens who must obey it, not the politicians?

Like the federal immigration law, which New York openly flouts and which state officials have forbidden local law enforcement officers to assist in enforcing. In New York, when is the law the law, and if they get to decide when it isn’t, do we get to decide that, too?

The governor’s anti-gun law violates Article III, Amendment II and Amendment X of the United States Constitution. It ignores the primacy of the federal judiciary, it erases the right to bear arms, and it takes to the state a power reserved by the Constitution to the federal government. Her law is illegal.

And the people have to decide if they are going to obey it, and the police have to decide if they are going to enforce it.

That’s what free people and free societies do.

Obedience to law is a duty of citizenship, and Abraham Lincoln said it should be our national religion, taught by mothers to the children on their laps. But illegal law is not law, it is caprice, dictate and oppression.

People obey the law because it obeys them, it being of their creation. But when it fails to obey them, by violating their rights and ignoring their will, they are prone to disobey it.

And the dictator only rules as long as the people submit and the authorities enforce.

And New York will now learn to what extent they will.

Will the people be citizens or subjects, and will the law enforcement officers be cops or henchmen?


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Thank God I left there in 1978.
1 posted on 09/01/2022 6:06:28 AM PDT by shortstop
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To: shortstop

One knows one’s society is dying when one is constantly forced to choose between what is legal and what is moral.


2 posted on 09/01/2022 6:13:22 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: shortstop

We’ll be pushing for a gun owner “sanctuary” here in Texas. The Constitution doesn’t give the Feddies the right to infringe upon our right to keep and bear arms. A right that is desperately needed in a country full of baby killers, Chicago drive-by shooters and public school student mass murderers.


3 posted on 09/01/2022 6:15:41 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I always thought a Merry Garland was a Christmas tree decoration.)
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To: shortstop
And so it falls to New York gun owners to obey the Democrat law, and it falls to New York police officers to enforce it. I wonder if they will, and I wonder if they should.

Actually it falls on the NYS Pistol and Rifle Assoc. to bring another lawsuit and the residents of NY to fund it.

4 posted on 09/01/2022 6:18:03 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: shortstop

The Supremes ruled concealed carry legal, for self defense. Now NY has banned concealed carry in every place imaginable, ie, transportation, parks,schools, zoos, stadiums, bars, etc. The law gives the gangstas free reign to continue there war against innocents. Eventually, the court will rule NY laws unconstitutional.


5 posted on 09/01/2022 6:19:22 AM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: shortstop

Most cops, fearing That they will,lose their jobs, will enforce the unconstitutional law. Only the patriotic cops won’t, and WilL DO,THE RIGHT THING and refuse to enforce the law.


6 posted on 09/01/2022 6:20:07 AM PDT by Bob434 (question)
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Eventually, the court will rule NY laws unconstitutional.

It's a problem when governments are so awash with money they fund everything and thus claim rights to regulate everything. It's a problem with big government.

7 posted on 09/01/2022 6:21:15 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: shortstop

So, if you legally (Supreme Court) defend yourself against a criminal threatening your life, you can be charged with a gun crime by N.Y., and prohibited from owning a firearm.
See how this works?


8 posted on 09/01/2022 6:22:47 AM PDT by Fireone (When they pry them from my cold, dead, unvaccinated hands.)
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The thing to do is to rob the thug that tried to rob you, that way ny will protect you as they do all criminals lol. Self identify as a career criminal when the cops show,up, and they Will Immeidately let you go no questions asked.


9 posted on 09/01/2022 6:24:50 AM PDT by Bob434 (question)
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But you are right, ny is trying to turn everyone into felons who will be forever barred fro. Owning guns


10 posted on 09/01/2022 6:25:27 AM PDT by Bob434 (question)
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ny is trying to turn everyone into felons who will be forever barred from Owning guns

Exactly.

11 posted on 09/01/2022 6:26:20 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: shortstop

Democraps...always attempting to ensure that the only people carrying guns are those with criminal intent...


12 posted on 09/01/2022 6:27:50 AM PDT by Democrat = party of treason
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To: shortstop

“New York’s unconstitutional new gun law.”

Coming soon to the rest of America?


13 posted on 09/01/2022 6:29:19 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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“I’m just doing my job” or “..of course I don’t condone it, but I need my paycheck and my pension”. Then quit, or you do condone it.

The “I’m just doing my job” road starts with cops shutting down an 8-year old’s lemonade stand because she doesn’t have a permit and ends with the prison camp guards herding people into gas chambers.


14 posted on 09/01/2022 6:31:28 AM PDT by wny
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To: shortstop

As far as I am concern this state, NY, is owned by Soros just like CA. What is wrong now is right?


15 posted on 09/01/2022 6:33:42 AM PDT by LoveMyFreedom
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To: shortstop
Boulder Colorado just got their anti gun law knocked down by a demonicrat installed judge.
16 posted on 09/01/2022 6:33:54 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Bob434
"Most cops, fearing That they will,lose their jobs, will enforce the unconstitutional law"

The romantic notion that LEA's and the military would side with conservatives is just that. A romantic notion.

17 posted on 09/01/2022 6:34:10 AM PDT by buckalfa (Kilroy was here, but who was he?)
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To: shortstop

if i wore a large sign on my head that read, “i have a constitutional right to carry and i will not be infringed”

do you think the NYPD would let me continue on my merry way?


18 posted on 09/01/2022 6:36:52 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: mountainlion

I wish some judge would knock down the elimination of Colorado’s preemption. Talk about a maze of bear traps.


19 posted on 09/01/2022 6:39:09 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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To: shortstop
And so it falls to New York gun owners to obey the Democrat law, and it falls to New York police officers to enforce it. I wonder if they will, and I wonder if they should.>>>>>>>>>

The Governor of New York has ZERO authority to remove my rights under the second amendment.

The Cops can't enforce the simplist of laws concerning assault, how will they enforce an unconstitutional gun law? Not possible.

If I lived in New York, I'd keep my blaster in the modified trenchcoat I wear. 12 gauge with OO buck. The spent projectiles are untraceable, and it is one solid intimidator and one round could clear one half a subway car.

Gun tourism in New York is about to begin....its a target rich environment...something like a hunting game where the good guys hunt for bad guys. The cops will turn a blind eye.

And the governor is going to look the complete ashaole that she really is.

20 posted on 09/01/2022 6:47:33 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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