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To: SpeedyInTexas
https://sonar21.com/ukraine-and-russia-it-is-a-math-problem/

On what basis did anyone in Ukraine, the United States or NATO indulge the fantasy that Ukraine had a snowballs chance in the fiery realms of Hell of matching up with Russia?

As of today, Russia claims to have destroyed the following equipment deployed by Ukraine since February 24:

290 airplanes
152 helicopters
1,889 drones
373 anti-aircraft missile systems
4845 tanks
825 multiple rocker launchers
3,369 field artillery and mortars
5,343 special military automotve equipment

This means that Russia not only has destroyed Ukraine’s stockpiles that existed at the start of the war, but it is eliminating planes, tanks and MRLS systems subsequently provided by NATO and the United States.

Has Ukraine destroyed some Russian aircraft, helicopters, tanks and armored vehicles? Yes. But so what. Russian losses are only a minuscule fraction of their total strength and Russia, unlike Ukraine, has factories that are continuing to produce equipment and weapons lost or expended during the course of this conflict.

So with these numbers in mind, carefully consider what is happening to Ukraine’s military force in its current offensive. It is being decimated. Capturing a rural village or two or pushing the Donetsk or Luhansk militias backwards a few kilometers is tactically insignificant.

The truth of the matter is that Russia is relying on the Donbas militias to do the bulk of the front line fighting because it is home for those militias. Claims that the Russian military has suffered major casualties is delusional because the Russian forces are in the rear and providing fire support–ground and air–to the Donbas militias. Yes, there are some Russian troops on the frontlines in some places, but the cold, hard fact is that Russia has not committed a significant portion of its total military forces to the battle. Not yet, anyway.

The reality, which the United States and NATO are loathe to accept, is that Russia’s defeat of the Ukrainian military is inevitable; even if the United States or NATO made the suicidal decision to send their own forces into the fray.

42 posted on 09/07/2022 8:33:18 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Kazan is the name of a city in RuZZia.

Is that where you live?

Dirty RuZZian


45 posted on 09/07/2022 8:38:09 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: Kazan

“On what basis did anyone in Ukraine, the United States or NATO indulge the fantasy that Ukraine had a snowballs chance in the fiery realms of Hell of matching up with Russia?”

The Ukraine has as many people as Afghanistan, and they drove out the Soviet Military that was four times as large. The Ukraine has a much better educated, equipped and led population, with kind of a blank check from NATO. Not only has Russia had more troops killed in six months in the Ukraine, than in ten years in Afghanistan, but we are nearing twice as many already.

Russia does not have a snowball’s chance.

Russia not Stronk.


62 posted on 09/07/2022 8:55:16 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Kazan

The truth of the matter is that Russia is relying on the Donbas militias to do the bulk of the front line fighting because it is home for those militias. Claims that the Russian military has suffered major casualties is delusional because the Russian forces are in the rear and providing fire support–ground and air–to the Donbas militias. Yes, there are some Russian troops on the frontlines in some places, but the cold, hard fact is that Russia has not committed a significant portion of its total military forces to the battle. Not yet, anyway.


Ah, an old gaslighting nugget from 2014. LOL. The “truth of the matter” is that Russia its supporters here lied in 2014 and said it was “local separatists” when it fact it was Russian soldiers with no insignia doing the fighting. We know that because Putin handed out the medals later to them and because many recent obituaries of Russian soldiers have breezily mentioned that they served in 2014-15.

The truth of the mater is Russia’s corrupt and incompetent military is taking a humiliating beating today. You need to accept the facts at hand and stop gaslighting in support of the Kremlin on a conservative website.


68 posted on 09/07/2022 9:04:20 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Kazan; MercyFlush; PIF; SpeedyInTexas
"On what basis did anyone in Ukraine, the United States or NATO indulge the fantasy that Ukraine had a snowballs chance in the fiery realms of Hell of matching up with Russia?"

Russian forces advancing backwards toward the Russian border and Momma's house, as a goodwill gesture. Or maybe it was all just a masterful feint by an omnipotent SuperDuperPower.


71 posted on 09/07/2022 9:17:24 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Kazan

“Russia, unlike Ukraine, has factories that are continuing to produce equipment and weapons lost or expended during the course of this conflict.”

Really? Tell me, what Russian factories are right now producing tanks, aircraft, heavy armored vehicles, artillery tubes, uniforms, or anything else aside from small arms and the GAZ Tigr?

Aside from yourself I don’t know of any other Russians making this claim.


78 posted on 09/07/2022 10:46:34 AM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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