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To: Kartographer

Do people start to realize that their opinion means nothing in politics or do they still hang on to their illusions even after it all goes sideways?

Illusions were the first victims when SHTF. Here are a few of many:

“There are police, this cannot happen. There is law, this is against the law.“ Actually, the police are police when the system works. When it does not work, the police are just a bunch of trained people with weapons, and it is completely up to them what they are going to do.

“I have rights.” Yes, when there is a system and law to protect those rights. If you want to have rights when SHTF you have to be ready to protect them.

“I have gun and lot of ammo. I will firmly stand my ground.” Good luck with that. There is a huge number of people already organized in violent groups, ready and skilled in violence, who wait for the system to collapse to jump in. People with more guns, more ammo, more skills than you, and less morals and ethics. You need to lower your expectations.

“This kind of chaos can not happen here (in the US). We have the best political system in the world.” This is my favorite actually because in my case the S. did hit the fan. For some period of time I was repeating this to myself, and even more, something like “This can happen only in some country in Africa, not here. Somebody going to stop this.” It can happen, and actually, it would be very bad because fall is going to be bigger. It is going to hurt much more, and people are going to be shocked much more.

Gotta give him credit. Must read for those who think SHTF is 'tin-hat'.
6 posted on 09/29/2022 6:52:17 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Selco talks a lots of right on target references to disinformation and creation of distrust that we are seeing daily in this article


8 posted on 09/29/2022 7:20:42 AM PDT by Kartographer (“We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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To: logi_cal869

When it does not work, the police are just a bunch of trained people with weapons, and it is completely up to them what they are going to do.

and there it is...


10 posted on 09/29/2022 10:27:47 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: logi_cal869; Kartographer; 4everontheRight; 4Liberty; 5thGenTexan; 45semi; 101stAirborneVet; ...
Prepper ping - Becoming aware of normalcy bias, and how the illusions of civility can flash change into chaos
Sage advice from Selco !

See post #6, and see how fast the illusions of lawful democracy can be affected by our current circumstance where 'up' is now 'down',
where political turmoil and hatred for opposing opinions (political, racial, religious, social class, etc.) create an unhealthy respect for others, whom you may know as "them".
Selco's entire original article at "Organic prepper" is well worth the 5-7 minute read, ..and then re-read it because it covers a lot of information, and includes subtle nuance.
Logic, devoid of emotion :'Take care of the things that you can change, and stuff that is outside your ability to control,..just let it go'.
Selco has lived it, dealt with it, and is a thriving survivor - heed his words and counsel.

H/T to Kartographer for finding this article

11 posted on 09/29/2022 12:23:03 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: logi_cal869

SHTF already happened in the USA for places like Atlanta, Georgia, between 1861 and 1865.


12 posted on 09/29/2022 1:02:58 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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