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Red wave fizzled for 2 main reasons
11/12/22 | vanity

Posted on 11/12/2022 12:31:53 PM PST by entropy12

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To: entropy12
> But not a single abortion has been stopped. So we lose two ways, abortions continue all the way to late term AND we lose elections. I do not see the wisdom there.

This is a matter of principle and morality.

41 posted on 11/12/2022 12:59:37 PM PST by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !!!)
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To: entropy12

How do you explain Florida? DeSantis cut down on voter fraud. Dems win due to fraud, especially in an economic environment like this. No way dems win otherwise.


42 posted on 11/12/2022 1:07:38 PM PST by Proudcongal (Trump making American great again!)
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To: entropy12
1-Lies told by the MSM

2-Mail in Ballots (Promotes both Lazy and Uninformed votes and Fraud)

3-Automatic Voter Registration as Unaffiliated when obtaining Driver License

43 posted on 11/12/2022 1:07:46 PM PST by G Larry ( When Leftists say "Population Control" it means Killing Billions, not "limiting growth".)
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To: DOC44

This is a huge primary reason.


44 posted on 11/12/2022 1:07:50 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Well, what could it actually do?
Without a veto proof majority all it can do is block.
A GOP led Congress needs a veto proof majority to impose its will - to govern. Even under the most optimistic predictions that was not going to happen.

Given what Biden and his crowd are doing, blocking is good enough.


45 posted on 11/12/2022 1:10:10 PM PST by Reily
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To: entropy12

I may agree abortion ended up a stealth issue because of bad handling by the GOP instead of any real reasoning for a compromise.

What is interesting is that pocketbook issues did not play was well as they should have and things may only get worse.

Medicare and Medicaid are eating the Federal budget up and over up over 1/3 of all spending. This is going to have be confronted and there will be cuts to these programs. medicaid is unfunded by any source except general revenue funds, Medicare is now very underfunded itself.

Social Security can be saved. No amount of tax increases can save healthcare and it has to be reduced to 5% of GDP and no be 20%.

Health care costs must drop 50% of more and not can be done but will be very painful and at least 2 to 3 million working in health care will lose their jobs.

Energy Costs will not go down and Oil Companies are not going to invest CapEx if they can’t be assured of a consistent energy policy to justify investment.

Saudi Arabia is building a new state of the art Refinery, will we be importing gasoline from there due to our inability to build new refineries.

What will be done to insure Election Integrity in future elections or is fraud now just part of the process from now on.

Lots questions, few answers.


46 posted on 11/12/2022 1:11:55 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: entropy12

The real reason is most of our population are idiots, but we allow them to vote anyway. Price of Freedom.


47 posted on 11/12/2022 1:13:26 PM PST by rellic
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To: pgyanke

“1) Is on Graham. Intentional sabotage to push for a bill that would rile up the opposition KNOWING it had no chance to go anywhere.”

I completely agree, intentional sabotage. I only despise that rat sphincter, McConnell more than this low-life limp rod.


48 posted on 11/12/2022 1:14:19 PM PST by bosco24 (EOD)
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To: Pollard

That’s Pennsylvania number one. We would’ve been better off with that African-American female. She probably would’ve been better than Oz for sure. we’ll never know or learn.


49 posted on 11/12/2022 1:17:54 PM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 democratic )
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To: pgyanke

McConnell, McCarthy, McDaniel, and Graham were all running against MAGA more than the Democrats this year.

Lindsey’s proposed legislation was designed to cause unmarried women to flood the polls and vote commie.


50 posted on 11/12/2022 1:20:30 PM PST by Tom in SFCA
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To: Tom in SFCA

Destroy the GOPe!


51 posted on 11/12/2022 1:21:02 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: entropy12

RE: 18-29 age group

For decades the top fans of pro-abortion legislation have been “young males.” Higher than young females in surveys.

Their sowing wild oats problems had to be solved or like feminist females it would interfere with their careers and lives to allow a baby to be born.


52 posted on 11/12/2022 1:27:36 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: dfwgator

I’ve heard it put this way before, but don’t know the origin.

“People would rather be given a free bowl of cold greul, than hunt their own steaks.”


53 posted on 11/12/2022 1:33:23 PM PST by EEGator
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To: entropy12

One item I haven’t seen mentioned is timing of the planned and executed leak of the Dobbs draft from the SCOTUS.
In Michigan and California it gave the Leftist lawyers plenty of time to work on well thought out exact wording of the constitutionally protected new law for the proposals on the later ballot. Not rushed or stopgap. Deliberately set up.

Wording in Michigan of “individual” took away terms such as adult or woman.
Underage girls can be counseled at school to find an abortionist without informing parents, and boys or girls can take schools’ advice to change gender and start getting hormone shots or schedule mastectomy for young girl or castration for young boys without a parent knowing. Lots of laws about only a doctor to do the abortion, suing doctor for botched procedure or death of woman, and hygienic condition of abortion place are all now “unconstitutional.”

All of that was NOT simply “restore our rights under Roe.”
So timing of leaked documents gave time for all out legal battle to get on the ballot as a proposal.

Brought a lot of people out to vote Dem in MI and CA and VT.


54 posted on 11/12/2022 1:36:10 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: entropy12

It’s called Voter Fraud and that is the main culprit. The rest is a side show trying to cover for it.


55 posted on 11/12/2022 1:38:19 PM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: entropy12

Supreme Court has been holding on for this for a long time, they knew that politics of it were not going to be good and they were waiting for a president that was sufficiently weak that overturning this would not result in a significant shift in power. Biden was that weak president.


56 posted on 11/12/2022 1:39:19 PM PST by dila813
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To: frank ballenger

Thank you for recognizing that men/boys were only too happy to have abortion as a fail-safe for their screwing around immorally.


57 posted on 11/12/2022 1:40:50 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

There are other people who don’t want abortions banned. Folks sick and tired of paying for welfare babies with their tax dollars.


58 posted on 11/12/2022 1:41:54 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: entropy12

Horse manure! The democrats won because, once again like clockwork, voters voted with their wallet! They are elated that the Biden administration has made everything more affordable. Further the voters picked democrats because they will insure that the K-3 kids get an early start with sex! roe and student loans had nothing to do with the election. /s


59 posted on 11/12/2022 1:46:15 PM PST by eeriegeno (Checks and balances??? What checks and balances?)
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To: entropy12
3) Ballot harvesting and outright cheating through mail-in ballots and dumped into drop boxes.

There is no way to ignore that problem in multiple blue states and cities.

60 posted on 11/12/2022 1:47:26 PM PST by Kazan
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