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Gratitude To Ukraine
substack ^ | 12/11/22 | Timothy Snyder

Posted on 12/11/2022 10:34:29 AM PST by Sunsong

"Debts are awkward, especially debts of gratitude. When we owe others too much, we can find it hard to express our appreciation. If we are not reflective, we might minimize our debt, or simply forget it. If we think highly of ourselves, we might ignore a debt to someone we regard as less important. In the worst case, we can resent the people who have helped us, and portray them in a negative light, just to avoid the feeling that we, too, are vulnerable people who sometimes need a helping hand.

"Americans (and many others) owe Ukrainians a huge debt of gratitude for their resistance to Russian aggression. For some mixture of reasons, we have difficulty acknowledging this. To do so, we have to find the words. Seven that might help are: security, freedom, democracy, courage, pluralism, perseverance, and generosity.

"Perhaps the most important and the most unacknowledged debt is security. Ukrainian resistance to Russia has vastly reduced the chances of major armed conflict elsewhere, and thus significantly reduced the chances of a nuclear war.

"Before this war began, one scenario for a major conventional conflict with nuclear risk was a Russian invasion of a NATO country. Ukrainian resistance has revealed the weaknesses of the Russian armed forces, and destroyed much of Russia's fighting capacity. Thanks to Ukraine, this scenario is far less likely than it was a year ago, and will remain unlikely for years to come.

"The major scenario for global conflict in the twenty-first century was thought to be a Chinese-American confrontation over Taiwan. As a result of Ukrainian resistance, Beijing sees the difficulties it would face in an offensive in Taiwan. The flashpoint of what most analysts regarded as the most likely (or even inevitable) scenario for major war has essentially been removed...continued at link

(Excerpt) Read more at snyder.substack.com ...


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“Western governments should focus at last on the one vulnerability they have not bothered to exploit—Putin’s absurd claim that Russia’s survival is at stake.” ~ Stephen Sestanovich
1 posted on 12/11/2022 10:34:29 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

Is this satire?


2 posted on 12/11/2022 10:38:03 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Sunsong

What is Timmy’s FReeper name?


3 posted on 12/11/2022 10:44:20 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! He will win 2024!)
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To: Sunsong

We should focus on all the people who sit at keyboards and clack away about how important it is for other people than themselves to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian or NATO trooper or, well, anyone but them. There are a lot of these big mouths all over the blogosphere.

“Stephen Rockwell Sestanovich (born June 8, 1950) is an American government official, academic, and author. He is the Kathryn and Shelby Cullom Davis Professor at the School of International and Public Affairs, Columbia University where he is the Director of the International Fellows Program.[1] His areas of expertise include Russia and the former Soviet Union, the Caucasus and Central Asia, and U.S. foreign policy.[2] However actually doing something himself about these problems is not in his area of expertise.”


5 posted on 12/11/2022 10:50:07 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Sunsong
Thanks Ukes for making sure The Big Guy gets his 10% of your scam profits.

He needs the money to destroy America.

6 posted on 12/11/2022 10:52:18 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Sunsong

7 posted on 12/11/2022 10:55:25 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: Sunsong

Sunsong, you are officially a WEF boot licker. The Ukrainians are dying for nothing. They are victims of the West and Russia. Forever War is a hungry beast that must be fed blood and treasure.


8 posted on 12/11/2022 10:58:08 AM PST by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat)
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To: tlozo

Yes, get Ukraine all the weapons they need asap!

May it be so!


9 posted on 12/11/2022 11:04:13 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: WMarshal
Someone has to say it: At the end of this war there will be fewer w____ people, so Europe will need to import more POCs to pay for the pensions of those who survived the COVID jabs and lockdowns.

A win/win for the WEF,EU, and Neocon led globalists.

10 posted on 12/11/2022 11:05:15 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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To: WMarshal

Stupid Ukrainians fighting to defend their family, homes, towns and cities from a barbaric invader who means to exterminate their nation.


11 posted on 12/11/2022 11:05:29 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: WMarshal

I consider the source of a comment


12 posted on 12/11/2022 11:07:13 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: Seruzawa

russia is losing


13 posted on 12/11/2022 11:08:03 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong
"I consider the source of a comment"

So do I and all of the Bidenistas literally scream for blood in their nasty little diatribes.

14 posted on 12/11/2022 11:11:28 AM PST by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat)
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To: Sunsong

The people of Ukraine are just pawns. The way that the Deep State and the 3-letter agencies have been able to use Ukrainian real estate: that is what this is about.
The fact that this has become such a high-profile issue after over two years of wall-to-wall Covid! Covid! Covid!!!! ? It is a testament to the power of media and the willingness of sheeple to say “Baa” on command.
Neither Putin or Zelensky (or Biden) are good people.
And the USA has no legitimate interest in the war over there.
Now the Southern border with Mexico - that is what one could call a festering, pus-filled sore that needs attention.


15 posted on 12/11/2022 11:17:39 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: Sunsong

This is sure to rile up the pro Putin segment of Freepers. Very well written and thought out. Thanks for sharing.


16 posted on 12/11/2022 11:23:09 AM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: Midwesterner53

You are very welcome. Thank you for your comment.


17 posted on 12/11/2022 11:28:01 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

First question. Who is this person?
Second question. What the F is wrong with them?


18 posted on 12/11/2022 11:31:23 AM PST by Agatsu77
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To: Agatsu77

“Timothy David Snyder is an American historian specializing in the modern history of Central and Eastern Europe. He is the Richard C. Levin Professor of History at Yale University and a permanent fellow at the Institute for Human Sciences in Vienna.”


19 posted on 12/11/2022 11:35:34 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: tlozo

Is it true you are so angry at Putin that you’ve decided to join the Ukranian effort on the battle field?


20 posted on 12/11/2022 11:35:54 AM PST by JonPreston
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