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Everything that needs electricity is made with oil
https://www.cfact.org ^ | February 1st, 2023 | By Ronald Stein

Posted on 02/02/2023 6:29:22 AM PST by Red Badger

The few wealthy countries pursuing the generation of electricity from wind turbines and solar panels while simultaneously moving to rid the world of fossil fuels have short memories of petrochemical products and human ingenuity being the reasons for the world populating from 1 to 8 billion in less than two hundred years.

Renewables may be able to generate intermittent electricity form breezes and sunshine, but they cannot replace what is manufactured from fossil fuels, that are demanded by lifestyles and economies around the world.

Efforts to cease the use of crude oil will be the greatest threat to civilization, not climate change, and lead the world to an era of guaranteed extreme shortages like we had in the decarbonized world in the 1800’s without fossil fuel products. This pursuit of renewables without fossil fuels can only lead us back to shorter life spans, diseases, malnutrition, and weather-related deaths resulting from the elimination of the products from fossil fuels that are now benefiting society.

If the zero-emission cult succeeds in ridding the world of fossil fuels, wind turbines and solar panels may be able to generate intermittent electricity, but they cannot manufacture anything. Electricity from breezes and sunshine may be renewable, but it’s not reliable. Again, short memories about the zero-emission society that we already had in the 1800’s.

Everything that needs electricity is made with the oil derivatives manufactured from crude oil. Let’s take a look at a few infrastructures, and products, that did not exist before the 1800’s, that now need electricity to operate:

Transportation

Hospitals

Medical equipment

Appliances

Electronics

Telecommunications

Communications systems

Space programs

Heating and ventilating

Military

The challenge for the renewable movement is that refineries only exist economically to manufacture gasoline and diesel fuels for the global fleet of road vehicles in 2022 that numbered about 1.446 billion, that’s with a “B”.

The EV Free Lunch is coming to an end Electric Hybrid Car, plugged in

Refineries are not economically viable JUST to manufacture bunker fuels for ships, aviation fuels for planes, and oil derivatives that are the basis of more than 6,000 products that are now demanded by societies and economies.

The future does not bode well as 20 percent of the 700 worldwide refineries are projected to close in the next 5 years of these aging infrastructures that will result in less manufacturing to meet growing demands of ships, jets, and the derivatives needed for all the products demanded by society. Further inflation and shortages in perpetuity are guaranteed.

From the proverb “you can’t have your cake and eat it too” tells us that you can’t rid the world of fossil fuels and continue to enjoy the products and fuels manufactured from fossil fuels.

Of the current huge global fleet of vehicles, only 12 million were electric vehicles (EV) in 2021. Thus, less than one percent of the worldwide road vehicle fleet were EVs, and more than 99-percent of the global fleet was “yet to be replaced”.

As the electronification of the vehicle fleet moves forward to diminish the 99-percent “yet to be replaced”, there will be insufficient refinery manufacturing to support the IMPORTANT demands of ships, jets, and the derivatives needed for all the products demanded by society.

Efforts to cease the use of crude oil could be the greatest threat to civilization, not climate change, and lead the world to an era of guaranteed extreme shortages of fossil fuel products, like we had in the decarbonized world in the 1800s, which may result in billions of fatalities from diseases, malnutrition and weather-related deaths trying to live without the more than 6,000 products currently benefiting society.

Today, we have the fuels for the 50,000 jets moving people and products, and more than 50,000 merchant ships for global trade flows, and the military and space program. We also have the manufactured fuels for the vehicle population dominated by truck registrations, and the military and space programs, which are needed to support the worldwide efforts to feed those eight billion on this earth.

Just a few hundred years ago, before oil, the world was unspoiled, decarbonized, and dominated by mother nature and the wild animal kingdom. There was no coal fired power plants, nor natural gas power plants, and the Beverly Hillbillies had not yet discovered oil. There were fewer humans competing with the animals due to humanity’s limited ability to survive what mother nature provided. Before oil, life was hard and dirty, with many weather and disease related deaths.

There are now eight billion of us, with most people living much longer and more prosperous lives than the one billion people who were around when fossil fuels use took off after the mid 1800’s. Moreover, the richer we are, the greener most parts of the planet become.

As a reminder, we had a net-zero emissions society in the 1800’s when there were no coal-fired power plants, no natural gas power plants, and no crude oil to be manufactured at refineries into usable products,

Thus, without a planned replacement for what is now manufactured from fossil fuels, we may get to the net-zero emissions society but with a few billion less people on this planet that will die from starvation, diseases, and weather-related fatalities.


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1 posted on 02/02/2023 6:29:22 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Try building roads without fossil fuels.

Macadam requires lots of oil.

The Portland cement in concrete requires lots of natural gas to produce.

Shall we turn to tree trunk corduroy roads?

The climate change scam is Green extremist insanity mated with political opportunism.


2 posted on 02/02/2023 6:35:18 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Red Badger
Agreed. The war on petroleum products is a war on liberty and modernity. It is very likely the abiotic theory regarding hydrocarbon creation is correct, while the “fossil fuel” verbiage is evidentially false. Consider the "green" movement today. Control travel and thereby limit liberty.

Consider "green pass" or health pass monitoring. Control required injections and control liberty.

Consider cancel culture and hate speech law. Control speech and thereby limit liberty.

So many seemingly independent movements in the modern age all are characterized by eroding liberty. For the "greater good," which was each time in that last several centuries a tyrant's mantra.

3 posted on 02/02/2023 6:35:53 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: FreedomPoster
Shall we turn to tree trunk corduroy roads?

I guess back to brick or stone roads.

4 posted on 02/02/2023 6:36:52 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: FreedomPoster

Fertilizer is made with Natural Gas.

Without it, we, and the world, will starve...................


5 posted on 02/02/2023 6:37:41 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: 1Old Pro

Can’t make bricks without huge amounts of heat.....................


6 posted on 02/02/2023 6:38:30 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

The advent of the petroleum economy Saved the Whales.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it Greenies.


7 posted on 02/02/2023 6:39:39 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

“It was possible, no doubt, to imagine a society in which wealth, in the sense of personal possessions and luxuries, should be evenly distributed, while power remained in the hands of a small privileged caste. But in practice such a society could not long remain stable. For if leisure and security were enjoyed by all alike, the great mass of human beings who are normally stupefied by poverty would become literate and would learn to think for themselves; and when once they had done this, they would sooner or later realise that the privileged minority had no function, and they would sweep it away. In the long run, a hierarchical society was only possible on a basis of poverty and ignorance.”
― George Orwell, 1984


8 posted on 02/02/2023 6:41:51 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Oh, and regarding that transition to an EV transportation fleet (i.e. your cars).

There isn’t enough electrical generation capacity to support that transition, and wind and solar cannot do it. Big power plants typically take at least a decade to build. How many new ones are under way?

There isn’t enough electrical transmission and distribution infrastructure to support an EV transition. Look at the problems California and Texas have had in recent years with this, without significant numbers of EVs.

There isn’t enough mining to provide all the batteries and conductors for the vehicles and increased electrical generation, transmission and distribution required for the transition.

And then there is the problem of how to build, maintain, resurface roads identified in my earlier post.

But other than these *minor* problems, a politically forced transition to EVs in a dozen years is totally attainable! There will be no inconveniences at all!

Unless you see a complete collapse of our economy as an inconvenience.


9 posted on 02/02/2023 6:43:10 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 1Old Pro

Bricks require lots of heat for the kilns. All hydrocarbon fueled these days.


10 posted on 02/02/2023 6:44:31 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Red Badger

The switch to electric from petroleum is a fraud. There is no way to have an industrial civilization like ours without petroleum products, coal, and gas.

It’s just a way to justify squeezing the last cent out of us and making us miserable and dependent on government.


11 posted on 02/02/2023 6:53:43 AM PST by I want the USA back (Hey, ask me my opinion!)
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To: Red Badger

Methinks the incandescent light bulb has no petroleum products.

Sand, aluminum, copper and tungsten.

Right?

There is always a smartass in the Forum.

5.56mm


12 posted on 02/02/2023 6:54:07 AM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go.)
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To: M Kehoe

Aluminum, copper and tungsten require petroleum products to mine, transport and extract from ores........................


13 posted on 02/02/2023 6:57:16 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Phttt.

I got a bunch of Mexicans for that.

5.56mm


14 posted on 02/02/2023 7:02:37 AM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go.)
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To: Red Badger

Before oil we used lots of coal and wood-with all of the pollution caused by burning them, the death and injury of coal miners, and mass deforestation.


15 posted on 02/02/2023 7:32:02 AM PST by kaktuskid
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To: M Kehoe

Takes a lot of heat to make the glass for a light bulb.


16 posted on 02/02/2023 7:35:06 AM PST by IC Ken (If the government can just print Money why do I have to pay taxes?)
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To: Red Badger

One of the big oil companies posts a similar one liner, on the ad banner circumference strip, during Astros baseball games.


17 posted on 02/02/2023 7:35:28 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 of day. )
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To: Red Badger

Not even the cave man had net-zero emissions society as it were the climate cult are clueless about their agenda stuck on utopia stupidity.


18 posted on 02/02/2023 7:46:18 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: Red Badger
--- "...would learn to think for themselves; and when once they had done this, they would sooner or later realise that the privileged minority had no function, and they would sweep it away."

Thanks for citing Orwell. I think the highlighted phrase captures now the political class and talking head media, which have little function except to stir the pot loudly such that those that will "sweep them away" become busy with minutiae and "shiny things."

Sweeping away the entrenched yet dysfunctional political class in office, bureaucracy, media and academia is what the future holds, I think we would agree. It now is only a matter of time. Best regards.

19 posted on 02/02/2023 7:49:58 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

“The masses never revolt of their own accord, and they never revolt merely because they are oppressed. Indeed, so long as they are not permitted to have standards of comparison, they never even become aware that they are oppressed.”
― George Orwell, 1984

“So long as they (the Proles) continued to work and breed, their other activities were without importance. Left to themselves, like cattle turned loose upon the plains of Argentina, they had reverted to a style of life that appeared to be natural to them, a sort of ancestral pattern...Heavy physical work, the care of home and children, petty quarrels with neighbors, films, football, beer and above all, gambling filled up the horizon of their minds. To keep them in control was not difficult.”
― George Orwell, 1984


20 posted on 02/02/2023 7:51:47 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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