Just wondering
I am aware that there are may smart if not outright brilliant members on Free Republic and for curiosity sake I thought I pose the following question, perhaps one or the other may come up with an answer.
What do you think, either the US or NATO would do, should it get that far that Russia once again will take control of Ukraine as it had done so previously for the past four hundred years without any obvious problems until the US got into the act over more than a decade ago and started to agitate. Will they be ready to start WW III?
And by the way, I am not in love with Russia neither am I enamored with some of the war mongers in the District of Corruption, just wondering?
SUMMATION:
IMO, Ukraine is fighting for the life of thier nation and people.
You might appreciate F.D.R. 1941 SOTU.
Especially 55-58
“[55] Let us say to the democracies: “We Americans are vitally concerned in your defense of freedom. We are putting forth our energies, our resources and our organizing powers to give you the strength to regain and maintain a free world. We shall send you, in ever-increasing numbers, ships, planes, tanks, guns. This is our purpose and our pledge.”
[56] In fulfillment of this purpose we will not be intimidated by the threats of dictators that they will regard as a breach of international law or as an act of war our aid to the democracies which dare to resist their aggression. Such aid . . . such aid is not an act of war, even if a dictator should unilaterally proclaim it so to be.
[57] And when the dictators, if the dictators, are ready to make war upon us, they will not wait for an act of war on our part. They did not wait for Norway or Belgium or the Netherlands to commit an act of war.
[58] Their only interest is in a new one-way international law, which lacks mutuality in its observance, and, therefore, becomes an instrument of oppression.”
https://voicesofdemocracy.umd.edu/fdr-the-four-freedoms-speech-text/
UKRAINE HISTORY IN A NUTSHELL
1918
January 26 - Ukraine declares its independence
Soon after the Bolsheviks seized control in Russia in November 1917 and moved towards negotiating peace with the Central Powers, the FORMER Russian state of Ukraine declared its TOTAL independence.
One of pre-war Russia’s most prosperous areas, the vast, flat Ukraine was one of the major wheat-producing regions of Europe as well as rich with mineral resources: including vast deposits of iron and coal.
The majority of Ukraine was incorporated into the Russian empire after the second partition of Poland in 1793, while the remaining section—the principality of Galicia—remained part of the Austro-Hungarian empire and was a key battleground on World War I’s Eastern Front.
Immediately following the overthrow of the czar in February 1917, Ukraine set up a provisional government and proclaimed itself a REPUBLIC within the federated Russia.
AFTER Lenin and his radical Bolsheviks rose to power in November, Ukraine [like its fellow former Russian property, Finland] took one step further, declaring its COMPLETE independence in January 1918.
The Ukraine’s Rada government, formed after the secession, had serious difficulty facing Bolshevik opposition and counter-revolutionary activity. Seeing Ukraine as an ideal and much-needed source of food for their people, Germany and Austria brought in troops to preserve order, while forcing the Russian troops occupying the country to leave under the terms of the treaty at Brest-Litovsk, signed in March 1918.
Basically, Germany and Austria annexed Ukraine, while supposedly recognizing Ukrainian independence.
The defeat of the Central Powers and the signing of the ARMISTICE in November 1918 forced Germany and Austria to withdraw from Ukraine. At the same time, with the fall of the Austro-Hungarian empire, an INDEPENDENT Ukrainian republic was proclaimed in the city of Lviv.
The Ukraine states proclaimed their union in early 1919, but independence was short-lived, as they immediately found themselves in a three-way struggle against troops from both Poland and Russia.
The Ukrainian government briefly allied themselves with Poland, but still could not hold out against the Soviet assault.
In 1922, Ukraine became one of the original constituent republics of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (U.S.S.R.) THEN, UKRAINE did NOT regain its independence until the U.S.S.R.’s collapse in 1991.
Your hypothetical scenario contains at least two explicit statements which are demonstrably untrue. It is thus not possible to honestly reply to your question.
Russia / the Soviet Union were not all "warm and fuzzy."
The Soviet Union posed a major threat to world peace and prosperity for almost half a century.
The Soviet Union held most of Eastern Europe in thralldom until its unlamented dissolution.
The resurgence of Russian aggression and imperialism under Putin might be little more than a "Dead Cat Bounce," but it must be dealt with decidedly, and with determination.
Regards,