Posted on 06/10/2023 6:10:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Yes, it’s true, according to the information contained in the Jack Smith indictment of President Donald John Trump, The Conservative Treehouse likely holds similar “classified documents” as outlined in the case by the special prosecutor.
Once you understand how, you then understand one of the most overlooked nonsensical aspects to the insufferable DOJ and FBI case that has been pushed in the media for the past year.
It is entirely possible for a person, any person, especially a person who follows the news, to possess documents containing “classified markings.” The indictment accuses President Trump of withholding documents containing “classified markings,” a very specifically deployed obtuse wording intended to create the implication of something nefarious where nothing nefarious exists.
There is a big difference between a classified document and a document containing classified markings. As an example, anyone who has looked at the Carter Page FISA application, made public in July 2018, has reviewed a document containing “classified markings.” When a document is declassified, they do not remove the markings.
You might think this is a one-off use of the “documents with classification markings” lingo, but it’s not. This language is the underpinning of the entire DOJ/FBI framework that predicated the raid on Mar-a-Lago. Specifically, neither NARA nor the DOJ-NSD requested President Trump or his team to return Classified Documents. The DOJ demanded the return of any documents that contained “classified markings.” [SEE BELOW]
Because the verbiage is so intentionally obtuse (ie. Lawfare), a fulsome production in compliance with this DOJ demand would include any newspaper or magazine articles that had a picture of the Carter Page FISA application, or any printed online article that might contain the same or similar elements. There is a big difference between asking for a classified document return, and asking for a return of documents that contain “classified markings.” [Example from CTH, below left]
As a result, it is entirely possible, I would say almost certain, that President Trump -and his legal team- returned every document that contained classified information but may have omitted documents that retained “classified markings”. There’s the spirit of compliance, and the letter of absolute compliance when contrast against a very granular interpretation of the request.
It is obvious from the demand, the DOJ/FBI were casting a wide net on the compliance side, knowing that amid hundreds-of-thousands of presidential documents and records, there would be obscure documents with classified markings that had nothing to do with national security. Thus, the “classified markings” establishes a Lawfare compliance tactic.
It will be interesting to see how this nonsense progresses. It becomes easier to call it nonsense, when you simply accept the approach being used. If the DOJ-NSD, FBI, Special Counsel or NARA were genuinely interested in ‘national security issues’, they would not be playing obtuse word games in order to structure court filings simply for media narrative engineering and propaganda purposes.
Again, all of these insufferable pretending elements simply create more avenues for smart legal minds to highlight to the court. The judges can see through this nonsense, and their action or lack thereof becomes part of showcasing their own agenda. Fortunately Judge Cannon has a very solid background on the Mar-a-Lago documents case. She wouldn’t need to have this stuff pointed out to her; she has already experienced it.
In the interim, for your own conversational points with friends and family, simply draw their attention to the difference between Classified Documents and documents containing “classified markings,” eventually everyone except the rabid orange-man-bad moonbats will figure out the games being played.
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Is Sundance trying to imitate The Babylonian Bee?
Fail.
Didn’t read the article, did ya?
‘Cause you know everything.
Hard to believe that a professional prosecutor would post “documents marked “classified”.”. And use it as proof the document is classified. I have seen JFK documents, Etc in books. All marked classified. Declassifying something doesn’t remove the marks.
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“Hard to believe that a professional prosecutor would post “documents marked “classified”.”. And use it as proof the document is classified.”
Where did you see that?
In the article. I read it…
Trump has taken us from rightfully wanting to lock up Hillary for mishandling classified information, to essentially giving her a pardon right after he was elected, to now wanting us to believe mishandling classified shouldn’t even be a thing, anymore.
It seems like a goof article. Your cryptic message is indecipherable. Can you please let us know what your point is?
That’s total bullcrap. Hillary did not have the legal right to steal and remark documents. She had no legal right to declassify anything. He did…
Classified documents that have been declassified would have such markings. What a crock.
32 CFR whatever states how a declassified document should be marked to indicate it has been declassified.
Something along the lines of:
DECLASSIFIED, 06/01/2023, John Chief, CIA China Section
You malevolent Soros’ AI ChatBot’s never read anything, do ya?
Page 27 of 49
74. On August 8, 2022, the FBI executed a court-authorized search warrant at The Mar-a-Lago Club. The search warrent authorized the FBI to search for and seize, among other things, all documents with classification markings.
75. During the execution of the warrant at The Mar-a-Lago Club, the FBI seized 102 documents with classification markings in TRUMP's office and the Storage Room, as follows:
Location | Number of Documents | Classification Markings |
TRUMP's Office | 27 | Top Secret (6) Secret (18) Confidential (3) |
Storage Room | 75 | Top Secret (11) Secret (36) Confidential (28) |
For all the horrible things Hillary is guilty of, there’s no tape of her showing classified war plans to reporters. Allegedly, even.
Even if what you wrote ad some semblance of truth, Hillary was not President when she had classified documents. Trump was. Completely different laws.
So Sundance should be prosecuted for the same crimes as Trump, right?
18 U.S. Code § 1001 - Statements or entries generally
(a)Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
(1)falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
(2)makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
(3)makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both. If the matter relates to an offense under chapter 109A, 109B, 110, or 117, or section 1591, then the term of imprisonment imposed under this section shall be not more than 8 years.
(b)Subsection (a) does not apply to a party to a judicial proceeding, or that party’s counsel, for statements, representations, writings or documents submitted by such party or counsel to a judge or magistrate in that proceeding.
(c)With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to—
(1)administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch; or
(2)any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001
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LOL....confounding to some, what you can actually find, when one reads the article. :-)
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