Posted on 06/24/2023 6:11:31 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
Normally I don’t work this late but there are potentially world-changing events happening tonight. For those that need a quick primer, you can go back and read these four posts for the longer version. This has been building up for months:
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So now let’s catch up on events of the past few hours. Prigozhin’s troops have been fighting with the army in and around the Russian town of Rostov.
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They attacked the headquarters of the defense ministry in Rostov.
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They apparently have taken control of the city.
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Prigozhin’s forces are already headed to Voronezh which is about halfway to Moscow.
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
It appears there are not many troops between them and Moscow...
All part of Putin’s plan. Prigozhin is a globohomo and is reported to be living in a biolab with Vicky Nuland.
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But here is a piece of fact for our Russian friends. I see that one of the top Wagner military commanders has NAZI swastikas tatooed on his friggin shoulders, which he proudly displays! Meanwhile how much propaganda were we fed that some Ukrainians wear Nazi insignia?
It seems Prigozhin is “neocon”. Those damn neocons are everywhere and heck they really did intend to “attack Russia”.
Putin’s army is bombing their own fuel depots and plan to blow the bridges to Moscow. Invasion of Moscow in 4 hours?
Now is the time for Ukraine to hit Crimea hard and with all they have, take advantage of Russia’s distractions, confusion and big problems.
Apparently they didn't consider that it would be other Russians heading for Moscow, and that today was the day.
Ukraine doesn’t have a force strong enough for a major offensive, and regular Russian troops are holding solid defensive positions.
Uke’s best bet is to wait and see how this plays out
If Putin is overthrown Biden will seem like a genius and there will be no stopping him in 2024.
All the other stuff will go away.
Video:
Rostov - people approaching the mercenaries to thank them and shake hands.
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672593218096037889
I disagree. Ukraine is holding back. If Prigozhin wins, he has already called the Ukraine "special military operation" a mistake. Easy for him to negotiate a peace. Easier for the Russian military commanders on the front to side with Prigozhin if they are not fighting the Ukrainians.
Either Prigozhin wins, or things get really messy. Time enough for the offensive if things get really messy.
Prigozhin and his mercenaries have apparently been bought out by Western intelligence agencies. Hopefully Putin manages to kill Prigozhin before he manages to flee with his loot. What a treacherous and traitorous scumbag.
Disagree. The entire war would never have happened if Biden had not shown weakness.
This does not make Biden look good. It is fairly neutral for him, in my opinion.
Funny, they're usually everywhere on FR, and obnoxiously so. I don't see many of the "regulars" this morning, for some reason.
They are very dishonest people. I feel bad for those who were deceived by them, and who berated everyone else with the most ridiculous claims.
Here’s something that should bring laughter without even the need for elaboration: “Douglas MacGregor “.
Where’s he hiding? I want to see that smarmy fraud sit there and calmly ooze with lies about this little situation.
I see that one of the top Wagner military commanders has NAZI swastikas tatooed on his friggin shoulders, which he proudly displays!
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Utkin is a nut case - no matter what is on his shoulders. He is also the founder of the Wagner Group which takes it name from his call sign.
Well, the Russian frontline’s support areas have been overrun and their supplies taken. Usually that’s a sign of retreat or surrender. When their food runs out they will move while they still have the fuel to do so. But where will they go w/o orders and facing desertion charges? Well, Wagner has food, fuel and won’t shoot them for desertion....
The internet has largely been shut off in Russia.
LOL! Good one...
Silly argument. Didn’t work for GHW Bush in 92
If Wagner forces Putin out, then Biden will take credit for overthrowing Putin, and use that to justify supporting the Ukrainian war.
It will be 24/7 Biden Saved The World from every corner of the MSM and the neocons will flock to his side.
Trump will be condemned for opposing the war, and lose any chance of winning in 2024. The investigations, etc, on both sides won’t matter.
There could be another result, of course, Wagner could be put down, or reach some kind of agreement, but this has moved fairly far along.
I think all of this also strongly suggests the West was behind this. The tensions with Wagner have been growing for months. For all I know the west may have bombed the Wagner forces to increase the conflict.
In any case, you can bet the American intelligence community was up to their eyeballs in the thing.
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