Posted on 07/20/2023 6:27:12 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas
“I have a queen”, Huh? The cluster bombs, in a few weeks, will have the same effect that half a million tons of them we dropped in SE Asia over ten years or the fifteen years of them we dropped in the ME did. Very, very little effect.
Very, very little effect.
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But very great effect on soldiers standing or crouching in open trenches, and even greater effect on the acres and acres of Russian mine fields.
Already the effect has caused surrenders. See post #57
or
https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/2487
Lol I have quess, queen😂
Geez guess lol quess my lord
drag queen star wars
usa is utterly defeated
humiliated too
They did have a serious effect in Vietnam,
Since war is an extension of politics both Vietnam and Afghanistan and to a lesser degree iraq were “lost” in that arena
Ukraine is not Vietnam, (might want to ask republican guard and road of death, not Vietnam as well). There is no jungle canopy to provide the same cover, additionally the Ukrainians are well motivated( there were some very good south Vietnamese units but not like Ukraine)
Say they won’t amount to anything, that’s fine seems it is already having an effect and a reason US Army doctrine still calls for cluster, but I guess 180000 titanium balls will have to do. Lots of video of Russians cursing that “safer” munition
And Vietnam ended as an American catastrophe, Iraq, another American disaster, Afghanistan, another costly American humiliation. And that was dropping cluster bombs primarily against totally unprotected, poorly trained irregular soft targets. You might want to check with the Ukes, before they’re all dead, about those Russian soft targets (excluding civilians). Of course, our legacy remains after we left in children still being maimed.
The Ukrainian offensive powers on.
“Destroyed Russian equipment in #Zaporizhzhia Oblast and #Donetsk Oblast - including a T-80BVM tank, a 2S5 Giatsint-S 152mm self-propelled gun and a 9P140 Uragan 220mm & BM-21 Grad 122mm multiple rocket launchers.”
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1682112843489878017
“Two more destroyed Russian tanks, a BMP-2 IFV and an unknown completely shattered armored vehicle.”
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1682113713468321793
“Three more destroyed Russian BMP-1/2 infantry fighting vehicles from the same area.”
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1682114769233354752
“Nice! Russia has been losing 3 to 4 times the artillery that ukraine has in the last few months”
Aid continues to pour in.
“”In the next 30 days, 40 FV103 Spartan APC’s in various modifications will be delivered to Ukraine from Great Britain,” Roman Bochkala reports. “
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1682103598065373185
China has certainly benefited, and when they expand north in the future (using the same argument Russia always uses, that the population is ethnically and historically tied to China), Russia will have little say. China will own Russia.
But there are some trends in global trade that China, with an already weakened economy, is concerned about. Like this one:
Mexico surpassed China as the top U.S. trading partner
Canada could soon push them to number 3. It seems possible some of the impact of the Trump negotiated United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement was hidden by COVID, but is now becoming apparent. This should be welcomed by the self proclaimed "anti-globalists", but some of them actually support China as a counter to the evil USA.
I don’t see Vietnam or Afghanistan as military disasters, political ones perhaps, 10’years in Vietnam 50, 000 dead Americans, 20 years in Afghanistan 5,000 I believe, how Russia doink in a little over a year.
Legacy how about 1 million Russian mines, that’s a lovely legacy
Again we can debate, let’s see what happens I have my “queen” lol
Not to mention the glorious real estate market in China. Not saying they are going to collapse soon, but controlled economy, real estate defaults, and demographics do bode well
ARMED FORCES OF UKRAINE ARE DEMOLISING OUR POSITIONS IN THE BAKHMUT DIRECTION WITH CLUSTER MUNITIONS.
“Russians are worried about the situation near Bakhmut:
“At the moment, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are demolishing our positions in the Bakhmut direction with cluster munitions. The counter-battery fight does not work. Everything is burning all around. The men are holding on, waiting for aviation. The General Staff has not yet handed over cluster bombs and rockets with cluster munitions to our guys for answers. It remains only to believe in our guys and our pilots.””
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1682130883573153792
One million mostly innocent dead Arabs, multiple millions dead in SE Asia. Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Iraq, Afghanistan totally destroyed for a generation. NONE of them attacked us. Russia NEVER attacked us. Their tough luck, right? Our great victories? We delayed Ho Chi Minh for ten years and just look at all that freedom and democracy we left in the ME. The domino fell, the Islamists rule and we’re out how many trillions? 75,000 dead American boys for NOTHING. Spare me the neocon spin.
You remember the Americans had been gone for a couple of years when Vietnam fell, right?
American air support was guaranteeing the success of ARVN after Nixon had Vietnamized the war. They were holding their own then the dem congress cut all funding for the American pilots flying the American planes. Defeat was snatched from the jaws of potential success. Of course, just like in Ukraine, we were never attacked and we were lied into it. Do we need to walk the nuclear razors edge in Ukraine for another ten or fifteen years again before we leave these people alone?
“A disaster for RuZZia. A strategic win for the USA. The biggest winner of the war.”
This war is changing a lot of important geostrategic factors.
The huge old Soviet stockpiles are being destroyed, and won’t be there to threaten Europe or China anymore.
Chinese (and Turkish) influence in Central Asian is expanding to fill the vacuum left by Russia’s weakening (lots of oil and gas there). Turkey seems likely to become more dominant in the Black Sea.
India is likely to be driven into the arms of the West for security, as the Russia card against China weakens, and Russian weaponry loses favor.
The USA replaces much of the natural gas that Russia used to sell to Europe, on long term contracts. American weapon sales are surging.
The West collectively (including more broadly, Japan, South Korea and Australia) is increasing Defense budgets, and ramping up their Defense Industrial Bases. Increasingly, they seem to be growing more focused on countering China’s Military capability. NATO is reinvigorated and expanded.
Poland is on track to rapidly become a regional Military power over the next five years.
You were right about Congress but we haven’t been in Ukraine, and we aren’t in Ukraine, we are playing a minor version of Russia’s role in Vietnam and we aren’t killing them like they killed us in Vietnam.
Russia may feel like they are stuck in a Ukrainian Vietnam, but we aren’t there.
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