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DeSantis Breaks With 70% of Republicans in Telling NBC ‘Trump Lost’
National File ^ | August 7, 2023 | JAKE WELCH

Posted on 08/07/2023 1:48:14 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: mbrfl

We know Hunter’s shadiness. Where’s the smoking gun on Biden? Even Hunters business partner, the guy with all the evidence said Joe committed no crime.


101 posted on 08/08/2023 12:15:15 AM PDT by joesbucks (It’s called love-bombing. Claiming he’s saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: joesbucks

No, Archer never said that Joe Biden committed no crime. You’re watching too much MSNBC.


102 posted on 08/08/2023 1:04:17 AM PDT by mbrfl
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To: mbrfl
I’m not sure what your sources of information are, but from page 104 of the transcript of the hearing:

Mr. Schwartz: Are you aware of any wrongdoing by Vice President Biden?

Mr Archer: No, I’m not aware of any.

103 posted on 08/08/2023 5:57:20 AM PDT by joesbucks (It’s called love-bombing. Claiming he’s saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: SoConPubbie
Nice reset Ron.



104 posted on 08/08/2023 7:46:13 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: joesbucks

So Archer said he’s not aware of any wrongdoing then went on to describe how their business was selling access to Biden. Archer’s not a lawyer. What he described were crimes. He testified that their business was selling the Biden brand. He testified that Hunter got his dad on the phone at least 20 different times during business meetings to demonstrate that they could deliver access to the big guy.

And Archer’s testimony is just one data point among many that outline Biden’s corruption. Have you been paying attention to what Comer and Jordan have been uncovering? Over 150 suspicious activity reports relating to the Bidens. IRS whistleblowers testifying to multiple shell companies that were funneling money to Joe and Hunter from off-shore accounts, which the whistle blowers were prevented from investigating.

Then there’s the FBI confidential human source who reported that Burisma owner, Zlochevsky admitted to paying Joe and Hunter millions to protect his company from prosecution, and he claims to have audio tapes of he and Joe discussing the payments. And we have Joe himself, essentially admitting to it on tape.

Then there are the allegations being made by Gal Luft that the Biden’s sold classified information to a CCP front company.

You need to start paying attention. There are already a number of smoking guns, and it’s just the tip of the iceberg.


105 posted on 08/08/2023 8:07:51 AM PDT by mbrfl
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To: mbrfl
Ah, now I see. He didn’t say it. Now you’re analyzing his “I saw no wrong doing”.

Yes, I’ve been paying attention to Comer & Jordan. Specifically to their 7 months worth of claims of delivering a smoking gun while at best it’s a cap gun. A lot of noise. Little impact.

106 posted on 08/08/2023 8:32:30 AM PDT by joesbucks (It’s called love-bombing. Claiming he’s saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: joesbucks
Trump absolutely wanted Rudy Giuliani as either AG or FBI director.

Jeff Sessions are clearly a plant, one Trump, justifiably thought was loyal because of his stance on illegal immigration.

107 posted on 08/08/2023 9:37:42 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Sessions was appointed as reward for his early support when Trump announced in 2015. While Rudy may have been among those under consideration, there was little if any fanfare for his nomination. And as usual, he talked up Wray as being the best choice.


108 posted on 08/08/2023 11:08:26 AM PDT by joesbucks (It’s called love-bombing. Claiming he’s saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: SoConPubbie

DeSantis needs a haymaker right in the pie hole.


109 posted on 08/08/2023 11:25:34 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: joesbucks

>>”Ah, now I see. He didn’t say it. Now you’re analyzing his “I saw no wrong doing”>

No, I’m pointing out that your original comment was incorrect:

“Hunters business partner, the guy with all the evidence said Joe committed no crime.”

I’m also pointing out that even if he had said “Joe committed no crime”, the rest of his testimony says otherwise. This whole conversation came about because I said Biden’s crimes need to be exposed. I’ve since listed evidence to a number of his crimes, evidence that would have gotten others convicted and your response is “a lot of noise, little impact”.

You haven’t refuted Biden’s guilt, you’ve just complained that it’s had little impact. That goes back to my original point about the necessity of more people becoming aware of his crimes. I was blaming the MSM for the fact that many people aren’t aware of them. Now I see there are people such as yourself who are doing the same thing by minimizing the evidence (e.g. “a lot of noise, little impact”).

Biden’s corruption needs to be exposed to more people. It needs to be explained to more people. That won’t happen from people like you who are dismissive of the evidence. You’re doing the MSM’s work for them.


110 posted on 08/08/2023 2:06:22 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: SoConPubbie

https://youtu.be/D05AB8xs7qA

Rest in peace Quisling


111 posted on 08/08/2023 2:20:08 PM PDT by ZULU (HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATIST TRAITORS)
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To: mbrfl
And again the exact word was wrong doing. That includes crimes and other misdeeds. He also said Hunter was trying to pedal the illusion of access, not access. Any anything Joe discussed was pleasantries.

Remember, this guy was going to blow the lid off Biden corruption. So said the former President. “Hunter’s ex-business partner, Devon Archer, could blow the lid off Joe Biden’s phony claims of innocence,” blared an email on Friday from former President Donald J. Trump’s campaign.

112 posted on 08/08/2023 3:23:54 PM PDT by joesbucks (It’s called love-bombing. Claiming he’s saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: joesbucks

How many more times do you want to go back and forth on this? It’s clear to anyone looking at the totality of the evidence available that Biden is guilty of numerous acts of money laundering and influence peddling. That was your original question (i.e. “Where’s the smoking gun on Biden?”)

There’s already a clear pattern of evidence of Biden’s crimes. Jury’s convict on this amount of evidence all the time. That’s what juries do. They don’t look at one comment that may be exculpatory taken in isolation. They weigh it against other evidence that is incriminating, and make a decision based on ALL the evidence.

There is plenty of evidence of Biden’s crimes. A statement from a co-conspirator, who’s not himself a lawyer as to whether Biden did anything wrong, carries little weight when you take into account all the other evidence he and others have provided.

Archer has an incentive to say Biden did nothing wrong. If Archer knowingly aided Biden in Biden’s money laundering schemes, he himself would be culpable. Archer hasn’t been given immunity, so he’s walking a tightrope. Everything he testified to spells out an illegal influence operation. The fact that he also said “No, I’m not aware of any” when asked if he was aware of any wrongdoing by Vice President Biden, means little when all the other evidence from Archer and others says otherwise, and when Archer’s motives for answering in the way that he did are taken into consideration.


113 posted on 08/08/2023 4:02:02 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: mbrfl
You have some points, but it was team Trump saying Archer was going to blow the lid off on the scandal. My point is, he fell not only short, but well short. No smoking gun, but a cap gun.

Gotta ask? Would you go after Trump and Don Jr based on the evidence presented so far?

114 posted on 08/08/2023 4:17:37 PM PDT by joesbucks (It’s called love-bombing. Claiming he’s saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: joesbucks

No, I wouldn’t go after Trump. I think the cases are weak. Aside from the Mar-a-Lago case, the J6 and the Georgia case involve things he did as President. Trump never told people to riot at the capitol. He actually said thee opposite. Leving aside, for the moment, the likelihood that the J6 riots were a staged event, Trump can’t be held culpable for felonies committed by other people when he never told them to commit such acts but rather told them to be peaceful. There’s no legal basis to hold someone responsible for crimes committed by others, especially a president, unless a conspiracy can be demonstrated. Based on Trump’s public statements that day, that hasn’t been done.

I’ll give you an extreme example of how absurd the notion is, just to illustrate. If I buy some groceries and when I leave, I tell the cashier, “Have a nice day”, then he kills someone later that day and claims that he interpreted my comment of “have a nice day” as a suggestion that he should kill someone, does that make me a co-conspirator? Kind of an over-the-top example, but it illustrates a point.

Can someone be held culpable for unreasonable interpretations of their comments that others might make? Trump’s words were reasonable. He told people to peacefully protest outside the capitol to let their legislators know how they feel. There’s nothing more American and nothing more Constitutional than that.


115 posted on 08/08/2023 4:45:06 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: mbrfl

I’m not talking about the current cases against Trump, but the accusations against the Biden’s used to indict Don & Don, Jr. Would support those charges you wish against the Biden’s if it was the Trump’s?


116 posted on 08/08/2023 4:51:53 PM PDT by joesbucks (It’s called love-bombing. Claiming he’s saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: joesbucks

Would I support charges against the Trumps if they had done what the Bidens have done? Yes, of course.


117 posted on 08/08/2023 5:12:25 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: mbrfl

I don’t see as much evidence on the Biden’s as they have on Trump, but I would support prosecution of them if they did,


118 posted on 08/08/2023 6:12:29 PM PDT by joesbucks (It’s called love-bombing. Claiming he’s saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: thefactor

Was Gerald Ford President?


119 posted on 08/10/2023 9:08:39 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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