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Ron DeSantis Knows the Time: It’s 2023, Not 2020
National Review ^ | August 8th 2023 | DAN MCLAUGHLIN

Posted on 08/11/2023 5:24:47 PM PDT by Ennis85

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To: Golden Eagle

Masters, Laxalt, etc.

Only Vance was a winner.


61 posted on 08/12/2023 1:39:52 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Golden Eagle

AND if he couldn’t prevent it as the incumbent President, how is he going to prevent it as the challenger?

Remember, Trump signed the CARES Act, whcih enabled a lot of the fraud, into law.


62 posted on 08/12/2023 1:41:03 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: kiryandil

Becuase we had a strong candidate in New York who almost pulled out a gubernatorial win. He was able to drag Houyse members and some legislators in behind him.

He ran on the Democrats’ failures, not on 2020 fraud.


63 posted on 08/12/2023 1:42:43 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: TBP
Did Nixon run around the country obsessively talking about how he was defrauded in 1960? No. He won in 1968 mostly based on policy (and the failures of his predecessor.)

Maybe if Nixon had, the cheating would have been nipped in the bud.

64 posted on 08/12/2023 1:51:43 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: TBP

Fake news and fraud denial. Trump got more votes in 2020 than in 2016, and the election in 2020 was conducted in a deliberately fraudulent manner. Statistically impossible for 93 percent of the electorate to show up out of nowhere too, particularly when the prior 100-year average was 45 percent.

Shilling for the Uniparty isn’t worth it.


65 posted on 08/12/2023 2:06:10 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: TBP

CARES Act is a Uniparty talking point (states misused the funds), and an admission that Trump won on its part.


66 posted on 08/12/2023 2:08:23 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SPDSHDW
Take your Trump obsessed ass outta here.

He won't do it himself, hopefully the mods will take care of the problem.

67 posted on 08/12/2023 2:10:54 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Faux News: "We distort, you deride")
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To: FreeReign

Ron believes the election wasn’t stolen in 2020, doesn’t seem
to care that it may happen again in 2024, and certainly would
not do much to challenge it if it did happen.

**********

Whole lot of stealing going on. Who are doing the stealing and
who is getting the money to do the stealing? High paying jobs?


68 posted on 08/12/2023 2:26:55 PM PDT by deport
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To: Ennis85

I’d be impressed if he were in kindergarten.


69 posted on 08/12/2023 3:11:45 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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To: TBP

Just the opposite.
You and Stacey could be twins.


70 posted on 08/12/2023 3:31:23 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: TBP
I wasn't alive in 1960 so I have no idea what evidence existed of voter fraud then. But, I do the evidence that existed in 2020. It's something no patriotic American should tolerate.

There isn't an issue more important than free and fair elections. But DeSantis his supporters and the Republican establishment is perfectly fine with the fraud that occurred in 2020. The Republican establishment was complicit in it.

71 posted on 08/12/2023 4:08:47 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: TBP
In 2016, Trump won because milions showed up to vote against Hillary. In 2020, many of htose same people showed up to vote against Trump.

Trump gained 12 million voters in 2020. He didn't lose voters.

72 posted on 08/12/2023 6:29:52 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Kazan

The Daley machine pretty much openly stole Cook County, and thus Illinois, for JFK. We didn’t get results until the next morning.


73 posted on 08/12/2023 6:59:28 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You’re teh one claiming that the election was illegitimately decided. You sound like Stacey Abrams. You know, hte never-inaugurated Governor of Georgia.


74 posted on 08/12/2023 7:00:46 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: TBP

Sorry Stacy, I think you’re projecting.

Do you deny massive fraud in the 2020 election??


75 posted on 08/12/2023 7:39:47 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Show me evidence.

When do they plan to release the Kraken?


76 posted on 08/12/2023 9:48:40 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Ennis85; V K Lee; GOPJ; DoughtyOne; mass55th; rlmorel; Liz; qaz123
This article twists the narrative around. That fooled me at first.  When I noticed the story was published by National Review -- the infamous RINO and anti-Trump publication -- I got suspicious.

I mean: why is the National Review writing a story that criticizes Ron DeSantis.  That didn't make sense.

But a few paragraphs in, I understood the argument. Essentially the author is lightly slapping DeSantis on the wrist for bringing up the issue of 2020 Election Fraud -- and he argues DeSantis can win if he merely resets the time clock to today: 2023... and leaves the past to history. So the story is a net positive message for DeSantis.  And that's why DeSantis' FR supporters are cheerleading this thread.

Trouble is: the author gets his premise wrong.  From the beginning of his campaign, DeSantis has been AVOIDING the topic of 2020 election fraud.  Even his pre-campaign book fails to address the 2020 election fraud issue adequately.

Only recently, when the curiosity of voters and the media FORCED DeSantis to clarify his stance on 2020 election fraud did we learn DeSantis believes election fraud in 2020 is NOT a serious issue -- which, of course, is the opposite of what the vast majority of MAGA voters believe.

Bottom line: DeSantis can't get elected by whistling past the 2020 election fraud graveyard.  This is a crucial issue for MAGA voters.  And if you can't attract MAGA voters, you can't win the Republican primary.

77 posted on 08/13/2023 12:26:44 AM PDT by poconopundit (Kayleigh the Shillelagh, I'm disappointed in you....)
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To: poconopundit; Ennis85; V K Lee; GOPJ; DoughtyOne; mass55th; rlmorel; Liz; All

They just don’t get it. None of them do. Not National Review, RINOs in Congress and the many more in the state Congresses and Governors mansions. They all think that they have the answers. What they don’t realize is that no one believes their BS anymore.

Yes, someone like Kemp is re-elected. “Wins” the primary in a landslide. Ask many folks why. Because of how he handled covid. That’s all they can tell you. How is he looked at now? Now that some of his dirty deals are common knowledge? Not good.

The people that these clowns overlook and take for granted see in Pres Trump, someone that actually looked out for them. Someone that did something about making gas cheaper, securing the border, more job opportunities with better pay. Someone that didn’t speak like a crooked politician and mumble the same ol’...I want to work across the aisle and help America. People on the Right know that the Left would burn it all down for a win.

And there isn’t one other person running for the Republican nomination that can say that.

DeSantis...on another thread, someone talked about the Conservative battles that he’s won.

Can any of supporters give me an example or two of the battles that he’s won?


78 posted on 08/13/2023 1:32:31 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: TBP

No.

I am asking you if you deny the massive evidence of fraud already shown on FR?

Do you actually believe there was not enough fraud to change the election?

Simple as that.


79 posted on 08/13/2023 6:06:51 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Such as?


80 posted on 08/13/2023 10:03:28 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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