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To: Red Badger

I perceived Chauvin to be A terrible cop who should never have been on the force and an unsympathetic character. He
certainly didn’t help Floyd’s condition as evidenced by his colleagues trying to get him to stop kneeling on the guy. So if I don’t think he should be in prison it would follow that one of these appeals should lead to at least a new trial.

It sounds like a decision has been made pretty high up to sacrifice this guy.


22 posted on 11/27/2023 7:18:51 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
" He certainly didn’t help Floyd’s condition as evidenced by his colleagues trying to get him to stop kneeling on the guy."

I saw no evidence of the above. What I saw and read was a recidivist felon given every break when the cops responded to a shop-lifting report until Floyd exited the cop car and went on the attack. Chauvin used a Department officially approved procedure to keep a violent suspect on the ground once there.

Chauvin did not use a "choke hold" on Floyd from anything I saw. How do I know that? I was a Military Policeman for 3 years, and trained when to use or not to use a "choke hold" - mostly not. Us new SP candidates had to experience the "hold" personally. I almost passed out.

Remember, Floyd said he couldn't breathe when they police first arrived and interviewing him. The cops had no reason to believe him at that time, but let him sit in their car to help him relax. He said again while sitting there he was having trouble breathing and left the car and went on attack. When Chauvin had him on the ground, Floyd complained about trouble breathing again. I could be wrong, but that's when the cops called for the EMT's. They may have called EMT's when in the cop car.

Read the Medical Examiner's Floyd autopsy:https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/medical-examiner/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf.

Look at the number I. Blunt force injuries. It includes outer skin cutaneous and mucosal injuries. Those are very common in police take-downs with violent suspects.
Number III, says No life-threatening injuries identified, including the neck.

Chauvin was rail-roaded even though he used an officially approved method by his own Department to keep a violent suspect on the ground. Chauvin used the weight of his body transferred to his right knee against Floyd's right upper back, while controlling Floyd's flailing arm. I was also trained in that procedure if you have the suspect face down. Sheesh, watch the show Cops and you will see it time and again and no one dies from that procedure.

The other cops stood by because Chauvin had Floyd under control and Floyd was succumbing to his massive over-dose of illegal drugs and heart disease and stopped resisting. Plus, they knew the EMT's were on the way.

IMO, they all followed procedure and even tried to help.
FLOYD WAS A DEAD MAN WALKING with the amount of drugs as reported in the autopsy.

Unless I missed a specific photo or video, Floyd was not killed by a choke hold. He killed himself by bad choices.

31 posted on 11/27/2023 12:08:07 PM PST by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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