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1 posted on 12/15/2023 1:35:37 AM PST by spirited irish
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Card-carrying atheists ! 😲


2 posted on 12/15/2023 1:46:27 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I owe, I owe, it's off to work I go ...)
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The headline and article are nothing but a cheap attempt to supply Creationists who barely passed their 8th-grade science class with some handy rhetorical ammunition to smugly fend off (not really refute) pro-evolution arguments.

"See! Even lots of scientists and atheists say that Darwinism is flawed!"

(In reality, these experts are essentially quibbling over details, not attacking foundational theory.)

So now these Creationists can deliver their verbal broadsides - without ever actually trying to grasp what these critics are really saying (hint: they are still materialists, still proceed from the plausible assumption that only prosaic geo-physical and biochemical mechanisms and processes gave rise to Life).

Regards,

3 posted on 12/15/2023 2:31:36 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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The world is managed by hoaxes.

One of the most damaging is Darwin’s theory of evolution. It was “confirmed” as settled science, and the correct conclusion, its corollary, was that the Bible was fiction and there is no God.

However, later science confirmed that Darwin’s writings were fiction, but the fictitious corollary was, ahem, allowed to stay in place, as firm as ever.


8 posted on 12/15/2023 2:57:46 AM PST by odawg
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There is nothing in science known iwn as “Darwinism”. What’s possibly mean is evolutionary biology, a fact based science closely related to modern genetics. It’s validity is tested thousands of times every day in labs all over the world.


13 posted on 12/15/2023 3:43:13 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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They believe in evolution. They don’t like it, and they want to stop it.


16 posted on 12/15/2023 4:24:44 AM PST by Daveinyork
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What may have started as honest scientific errors has turned into a full-blown hoax over the course of more than 150 years.

Any “scientist” today who refuses to recognize the distinction between adaptation and evolution is a fraud and should be ignored.

27 posted on 12/15/2023 5:45:07 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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The core of Darwinian (and all other branches of) evolution is silliness.
My opinion, having considered many of the aspects of that model, is simply that evolution doesn’t exist as an actual scientific theory because foundational science doesn’t support it. Foundational science supports entropy, not self-correcting orderliness.
Another item is that there is no mathematical model that proves there’s a path from randomness to decisive determinism.
Final point for this short comment is that without a Creator there is no basis for logical, persistent physical laws, i.e., randomness is forever.


33 posted on 12/15/2023 6:49:51 AM PST by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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Good article. It’s worth your time to follow the link. The following was new to me:

“Living cells do not operate blindly,” Shapiro explains. They continually acquire information, make adjustments, self-regulate, and self-correct. They constantly monitor their environment, their situation, and their health. Molecular biologists increasingly realize that the number of regulatory and control processes in cells outnumbers the functions which actually accomplish a task. There are layers upon layers of interconnected networks that constantly process information. This recognition has given rise to the discipline of systems biology—the study of how groups of molecules coordinate to work cooperatively. Shapiro specifically rejects the notion that random variations are introduced through accidental mutations in DNA. The standard neo-Darwinian model fails to take into consideration that the cell auto-corrects the errors in its DNA. Replication of the DNA strand, explains Shapiro, occurs with extreme precision and speed, and then a multistage process of proofreading takes place. This proofreading happens both during replication and afterward. “The efficiency of the mismatch repair system is about 99%, increasing replication… function within cells as checkpoints: they make sure that certain processes (some of which are incredibly complex) do not proceed until all the prior processes have been completed. It is not mechanical precision that ensures success in cellular tasks and reproduction. Rather, it is the layer upon layer of proofreading, auto-correcting, and quality control.”


39 posted on 12/15/2023 7:19:09 AM PST by ChessExpert (Required for informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine.")
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From the article, quoting the scientists in question:

“They argue that Darwinism is an ideological cadaver.”

I kinda like that characterization. Reminds me of the current occupant.


41 posted on 12/15/2023 7:24:27 AM PST by Migraine
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"Cosmic authority problem???" They want a cosmic authority! They just don't want it to be G-d! (They want the United Nations.)

And if they're really so opposed to "purpose," then why do they keep coming up with these plans to "save the earth" and achieve "social justice?" Why don't they just eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow they die???

45 posted on 12/15/2023 7:59:28 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (בראשית ברא אלקים את השמים ואת הארץ)
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Great article! I sent it on to my family. Thanks, for posting.


53 posted on 12/15/2023 9:13:21 AM PST by the_Watchman
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