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everyone that I know that exhibits signs of mental illness says stuff just like you

I generally disagree with exdemmom on all the shots business, but she makes her case, and sticks around, taking the flak. We don't have to attack her personally just because she takes an "establishment" point of view on some medical issues.

I would just suggest, ExDemMom, that repeatedly attacking the Epoch Times as "professional antivaxxers" is not an argument. Epoch Times is Falun Gong, a group that most of us have little in common with, but see their mistreatment at the hands of the ChiComs deserving of sympathy. And like the Moonie run Washington Times, is capable of providing useful information.

In any event, attacking the Epoch Times for being professional antivaxxers but never acknowledging that the true pros in the argument is big Pharma who profits directly, and big media who lives off of big Pharma these days.

The quality of published research has declined in direct proportion to the degree of politicization of the University system, which has hit STEM because STEM stood by while admin positions, humanities, classics, and English were completely taken over while STEM stood by comfortably, thinking it was safe.

The result? Published research at the highest levels gets the same suspicion that MSM news reporting gets. The more that government coercion is used to force the narrative, the more suspicious the narrative.