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Bears Kill Nine times as many people when Bear Spray is Sprayed v When a Handgun is fired
Bears Kill Nine times as many people when Bear Spray is Sprayed v When a Handgun is fired ^ | January 4, 2024 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 01/04/2024 3:49:14 AM PST by marktwain

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Fatalities are the most reliably reported bear attacks.
1 posted on 01/04/2024 3:49:14 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

How to tell the difference between black bear scat and grizzly scat:

1. Black bear scat is usually blackish and contains seeds and fur from grooming.

2. Grizzy scat is usually blackish and may contain bells and also may smell of pepper spray.


2 posted on 01/04/2024 4:01:10 AM PST by GeneralisimoFranciscoFranco (I love liberals. They taste like chicken.)
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To: marktwain

Firearms have been used to kill bears for hundreds of years before bear spray came about.

Their development into a personnel protection system if far ahead of and kind of spray.

People with common sense have always known that they have and will be superior to bear spray.


3 posted on 01/04/2024 4:04:14 AM PST by riverrunner
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“Peace and Love” liberals feel they can reason with bears so let them.


4 posted on 01/04/2024 4:11:58 AM PST by albie
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To: marktwain

Forget the bear spray, I think I’ll stick with a .500 Smith & Wesson magnum revolver. Not really something I have to be concerned about, not too many bears out here in central Kansas.


5 posted on 01/04/2024 4:18:41 AM PST by kawhill (kawhill)
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To: marktwain

My dad had two bear encounters in Alaska.

First time he was stalked by a bear while fishing so I gave him an Aussie L1A1, the Brit version of an FN FAL, for protection. He was later attacked by a bear near his cabin and I can report that the L1A1 was very effective at bear protection.

One of the big problems with bear spray is that problem bears are getting sprayed multiple times and they are getting used to being sprayed so for some reason the sprays are less effective if the bear has been sprayed multiple times.


6 posted on 01/04/2024 4:20:15 AM PST by rdcbn1
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Great story.


7 posted on 01/04/2024 4:26:21 AM PST by marktwain
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8 posted on 01/04/2024 4:28:07 AM PST by SJackson (In a war of ideas it is people who get killed.)
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I look around outside here before I go out at night to make sure a bear is not hanging around. Especially mother and cubs. They’re ok unless you spook one, corner one or get to close to mom and cubs....then hell breaks loose.


9 posted on 01/04/2024 4:33:29 AM PST by devane617 (Discipline Is Reliable, Motivation Is Fleeting..)
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First time he was stalked by a bear while fishing so I gave him an Aussie L1A1, the Brit version of an FN FAL, for protection.

I am sure that it is very effective as a defensive weapon but it seems like that it would be pretty heavy for a hiker to carry through the woods.

Of course unloading a 20 round mag in to a bear should end an attack.

10 posted on 01/04/2024 5:03:49 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: marktwain

apparently bear spray only serves to piss off the bear...and leads to the bear wanting to serve who ever is dumb enough to not carry the proper tool for a bear.


11 posted on 01/04/2024 5:19:19 AM PST by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star )
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“ Of course unloading a 20 round mag in to a bear should end an attack.”

you would have time to get off only a couple of shots in a bear attack.

12 posted on 01/04/2024 5:45:52 AM PST by circlecity
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13 posted on 01/04/2024 5:46:19 AM PST by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: rdcbn1

An inch pattern version of the FN FAL, is the term that is commonly used. UK and most Commonwealth countries. Belgium, Austria, Brazil, Germany, many others, used metric pattern guns.


14 posted on 01/04/2024 6:11:36 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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I called mine a Poyer.


15 posted on 01/04/2024 6:23:59 AM PST by rdcbn1
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To: marktwain

I scanned but did not read the entire post.

One thing that seemed omitted was another thing which happened in the ‘80s:

Entry into the wilderness of a new generation of people lacking a healthy respect for the wild.

In addition, most of those who arm themselves with bear spray vs. firearms expose themselves as members of a certain demographic.

IOW, IMHO, there’s more to the story and at least some - if not most - of those who died from bear attacks made very, very poor choices.


16 posted on 01/04/2024 6:24:51 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: marktwain

Da Bears!


17 posted on 01/04/2024 6:26:01 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: marktwain

The ‘Groom Creek’ attack in Prescott must
Be in your data base.


18 posted on 01/04/2024 6:36:13 AM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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I know about the Groom Creek incident, and have written about it. As far as I can determine, neither bear spray or a handgun was involved.

A neighbor used a rifle to shoot and kill the bear, but was too late to save the victim.

19 posted on 01/04/2024 6:42:11 AM PST by marktwain
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Bear spray doesn't even incapacitate people. Here is an excerpt from a KOMO News story about a carjacking in Washington state.

The initial blast of spray didn't stop the suspect, after being sprayed in the face at close range, James said he attempted to take his car next. He said the suspect got inside his vehicle, sat in the driver’s seat, and locked all the doors. But James had the keys in his pocket. He thinks that and the bear spray blast forced him to get out of the vehicle.

"His face was all red and he was crying, his girlfriend asked me what I sprayed with and I sprayed her in the face too," James said.

James said the couple took off running north at that point.

20 posted on 01/04/2024 6:43:41 AM PST by Rinnwald
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