Posted on 02/08/2024 3:05:37 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007
Bkmk
Yep, you’re right. Steyn sounded fairly intent on setting up a fund back in a 2014 interview with Hugh Hewitt but apparently he changed his mind. He’s now using his website as a “legal Offense fund” to bring in some bucks along the lines of what you’re talking about.
https://hughhewitt.com/mark-steyn-slaps-back-anti-slap-phase-lawsuit-michael-mann
https://www.steynonline.com/6910/mann-vs-steyn-the-state-of-play
The idea is that you can buy a gift certificate in any amount you see fit. They’re available in amounts up to several thousand dollars. You can then redeem it for merch...or not.
Steyn Online gift certificate page:
The first appeal would be to the DC Circuit, which likely is no better than the D.DC. It would be a long and expensive road to the Supreme Court, if they were to even take the case.
The problem is, you CANNOT appeal a jury verdict. You can appeal that the court should have dismissed the case before it got to a jury as legally insufficient (a harder argument after you’ve lost), but you cannot appeal that the jury was wrong.
So I need to take back my own statement - this case was NOT heard in federal court. It was heard in DC City court. Honestly I have no idea what it was doing there. So the appeal would be to the District of Columbia Court of appeals, not the Federal DC circuit. It looks like that court has already refused to dismiss this case in a prior appeal, so to get to the Supreme Court would require an appeal from there which the Supreme Court would take on First Amendment grounds.
Good luck Mark.
This will be overturned.
I’m not a lawyer, but a quick internet lookup says that punitive damages are generally limited to 4 times the compensatory damages, unless the harm is particularly bad (usually applies when the case is about physical injuries).
Harm the jury valued at $2 can’t have been prticularly bad.
So Mann might have to be satisfied with $10 in total damages. The question is whether Steyn will be forced to pay Mann’s attorney’s fees. If Mann has to petition the court for that, I have to wonder how sympathetic even a DC judge will be when the actual damages were valved as $2. Mann wasted the court’s time.
My feeling is that any case that could involve punitive damages should fall within Amendment VI.
This would have discovery and trial location implications.
Should I deprived of Amendment VI protection because the fine is paid into a private pocket and an officer of the court pocket instead of into a government treasury?
“you CANNOT appeal a jury verdict”
my dictionary:
“rape...a sexual act committed by force”
So if a NYC jury declared that Trump did not use force on Carroll, then if Carroll previously and publicly said she was raped, then her rape allegation must then always be considered false? Am I correct?
The hockey stick graph appears to be well justified from what I’ve read of Mann’s article.
That it means what Mann apparently to me says it means is to my mind doubtful. CO2 does not prevent rapid late afternoon cool off from what I feel here in wintertime Florida.
“I would rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned.”
Nobel Physics Prize winner Richard Feynman
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1134331-i-would-rather-have-questions-that-can-t-be-answered-than
What a pile of S^^T!!!
Not even a million and one bucks can buy a conscience.
A poster on Instapundit writes:
disintelligentsia sukietawdry
an hour ago edited
Stein can file to have the punitives remitted. State Farm Mutual Automobile Insurance Co. v. Campbell, 538 U.S. 408 (2003) states that punitives above 4x compensatory damages are usually offensive to the Constitution. In extremely egregious cases punitives might rise to 10x compensatory.
Compensatory damages were $1. The judge, if he were to follow the State Farm case, would remit the punitives to $4 or less. Possibly up to $10.
https://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2009/12/fables-of-the-reconstruction.html
Written in 2009.
Mann’s “hockey stick” prediction is pure bullshit. There are no “hockey stick” predictions that have ever been confirmed.
A jury reached this verdict. But let's face it, we live in a nation of morons. A democracy (Yes I know our form of democracy is a constitutional republic) is only as good as the people who comprise it. That's what makes this is sad.
One by one, our institutions are falling.
Neither will Mark, given his health....and finances....
That's hardly the point for the left. Their point is to harass the other party to death via the legal process, which is what Mann already did to another cliimate scientist who died penniless because of it, as was brought out in trial testimony. Two other scientists also testified in the trial that Mann substantially wrecked their careers with his evil backstabbing campaigns. Mann is probably at this minute crafting documents that will force Steyn's estate to pay his estate after either of them is dead.
I thought that Penn State and the University of Pennsylvania had already sunk low, but their support of this monster excavates the bottom.
The problem with Washington DC jury pools is that Leftist partisans do not live by any core values, so the truth, right and wrong, etc. never enter into the equation. It’s all bout the politics of hatred and resentment — pure evil.
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