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To: JudyinCanada

It’s too bad so called conservatives are willing to cave on the pro-life position. We cannot sacrifice babies on the altar or politics. By caving on this issue, that is playing right into the democrats hands and giving them what they want.

His stand on abortion is why we voted for him in 2016.


44 posted on 03/17/2024 11:38:49 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom

It’s not a question of “caving.” It’s a question of being strategic. Reagan could win big in 1980 and 1984, despite running on an unabashed, unapologetic anti-abortion platform but it was a different time. Roe vs. Wade was only 7(-11) years old at that point, and then, compared to now, a lot more Americans weren’t so gung-ho on abortion. Roe really could have ben and should have been overturned at that point, but Reagan whiffed on his SCOTUS picks with O’Connor and Kennedy (after the Bork debacle)... setting the stage for Roe’s unfortunate continuation for another THREE DECADES.

What happened in those 30 years? Tens of millions more women had abortions, and tens of millions more men procured and/or pressured women to have abortions; parents encouraged the abortions of their grandchildren, etc. etc. All those people have blood on their hands... but, unfortunately, they also vote. And when abortion is on the ballot or perceived to be, it’s like a referendum on their own guilt.

At this point, the best we can do is take the win with Dobbs and leave the issue to the states. Maybe after a couple more generations, when most of the post-abortive voters of our era are dead and gone, the pro-life side can do something at the nationwide level but we’re not there yet.


46 posted on 03/18/2024 12:05:51 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: metmom

Conservatives are sick and tired of red waves fizzling from abortion issue which is now state issue. Don’t need extreme position on national level. Why help Biden get re-ekected?


55 posted on 03/18/2024 12:41:00 AM PDT by Bobbyvotes (I will be voting for Trump/whoever in November. If he loses in 2024, country is finished.)
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To: metmom

Personally, I think we need to place less emphasis on abortion. It NEVER will be gone, even if supposedly outlawed.

My preference would be to place more emphasis on protecting the First Amendment, especially religious freedom and Christianity. Hearts are changed through religion, and abortion won’t decrease until hearts are changed. Much of the cause of abortion is indiscriminate sex, which also would decrease if hearts are changed through religious beliefs.


112 posted on 03/18/2024 2:55:53 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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