Posted on 04/24/2024 8:48:40 AM PDT by Kazan
As the war in Ukraine runs into its third year with relentless advances by the Russian Federation forces, Kiev is running low on almost everything: air defenses, planes, missiles, artillery, tanks, and last but not least, people.
Almost a million military-age males have fled the Ukrainian territory seeking to avoid military service which has become in many ways a death sentence, as Russian defense minister Sergei Shoigu has stated that Kiev’s human losses have topped half a million troops.
Now, Ukraine has started to resort to radical moves, as they suspended consular services for military-age male citizens abroad.
Kiev authorities have criticized Ukrainians abroad who ‘expect to receive help from the state without helping it battle for survival in the war against Russia’.
Reuters reported:
“Ukraine adopted a law last week overhauling how it mobilizes civilian men into the armed forces to make the process more effective, addressing what military analysts say is a key challenge if it is to hold out against advancing Russian troops.
‘How it looks like now: a man of conscription age went abroad, showed his state that he does not care about its survival, and then comes and wants to receive services from this state,” Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said on X.
‘It does not work this way. Our country is at war… Staying abroad does not relieve a citizen of his or her duties to the homeland’.”
Kuleba’s reaction reflects the mounting frustration in Kyiv with Ukrainian men abroad who are not contributing to the war effort (a.k.a. want to stay alive).
<“Some 4.3 million Ukrainians were living in European Union countries as of January 2024, of whom about 860,000 are adult men, the Eurostat database estimated.
In practice, the suspension means military-age men now living abroad will be unable to renew expiring passports or obtain new ones or receive official documents such as marriage certificates.”
The suspension of consular services will remain in effect until the mobilization law and its regulations are enacted in May.
By then, military-age men will be required to report to draft offices to update their papers, either remotely or in person, within 60 days.
Military-age men abroad will need those papers to receive any kind of consular services.
“Ukraine imposed martial law at the start of the full-scale war, banning men aged 18 to 60 from travelling abroad without special dispensation and beginning a rolling mobilization of civilian men into the armed forces.”
As is usual in many subjects, MSM reports mainly reproduce the talking points by Kiev, without any serious investigation, because if they did so, they’d find out that the whole family of Foreign Minister Kuleba has fled Ukraine right a the start of nthe war – including the dogs.
We wonder if Ukrainian officials think that they too have ‘shown their indifference to the issue of the survival of the state’.
Slavyangrad reported:
“’Staying abroad does not relieve a citizen of his responsibilities to his homeland. That is why yesterday I instructed to take measures to restore fair treatment of men of mobilization age in Ukraine and abroad. It will be fair’, Kuleba said.
According to him, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs will provide clarifications for obtaining consular services for men of mobilization age in foreign diplomatic institutions.
‘If these people believe that someone there, far away at the front, is fighting and giving their lives for this state, and someone will sit abroad, but at the same time will receive services from this state, then it doesn’t work that way’ , the diplomat wrote.”
Don’t forget to check Canada.
I hear there’s a crackshot pilot named Denys available.
Ukrainian men need to hide like Anne Frank to avoid the Nazis until this war is over.
I am not in favor of this war simply because we should not be funding it or giving them our reserve military supplies. It’s a Euro war and the Euro’s should be footing the bill and be the ones supplying the Ukes.
But, it is a war. Russia is invading them. I do not like draft dodgers. This is a real war where real people are dying. It would be different if the Ukes were invading Russia or some other neighbor, but they are not. These draft dodgers should be waiting in line to enlist. Catching them and putting them on the front lines right away is not a problem with me.
A greater point to be made is if China or Russia attack us on our own land, will there also be a mad rush of military aged men to run? Yes, it will be no different.
I’ve had a lot of experience with draft dodgers, they are a sorry lot.
That will never happen. If that was about to happened the enemy would be nuked until they sparkle. Why have nukes if you can't use them?
Numbers wise, time is on Ivan’s side, he simply has more population and industrial capacity than the Ukraine. A long meat grinder favors Ivan. The US can’t even keep it’s navy up to date because it has destroyed its industrial base. The longer this war goes on the more likely Ivan wins. I know the warmongers want Georgie Zelensky Jr. to win, but logistically I don’t see how that is possible.
Zelensky sure likes sending white Christian men to their death.
We fomented an illegal coup in Ukraine 2014 and installed a puppet government that was hostile to the ethnic Russian population and to Moscow. That setoff a civil war.
We trained and funded a 600,000 army that consisted partly of neo-Nazis. We teased NATO membership for Ukraine. We rejected any attempts at peace the Russians proposed (the Minsk Accords and an offer to discuss Russian security concerns in 12/21).
If Russia or China had done anything similar in Mexico, we would have invaded.
Simply opposing funding this war isn't good enough if you buying and promoting the false narrative that lead to this war.
Neocon foreign policy must die and be replaced with one that puts America and its interests ahead of those of the polite and globalist elite.
Yeah I see your point. If your country is in a war that has killed 500,000 of your peers, it is your duty as a citizen go get killed also. It doesn’t matter whether your country relies on other countries to supply the weapons and money required to wage said war, you have a duty to fight and die for your country. Your own life has no value other than as a soldier. You also don’t need to bother voting because this isn’t a democracy. And the fact that your president has a really nice house in London doesn’t mean a thing.
Word is leaking out that there are incidents of Ukie conscripts have been told that even if they alow themselves to be captured, their families will be severely punished back home.
Expect families of captured or surrendered Ukie troops being executed.
Maybe you shouldn't have dodged the draft. Enjoy your stay in Canada?
What a silly thing for you to say, you post some of the craziest things here.
Odd...you didn’t deny being a draft dodger.
Do you ever notice tag lines, do you know what RA means?
Serious question.... But what “services” could Ukraine provide that would make it worth going back to serve on the front?
Heck. Every city west of the Sieara Nevadas and East of the Appalachians would welcome a communist invasion.
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