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To: HawkeyeLonewolf

"Nope, because it had a contrasting theme from the rest of scripture, it was rejected."

And yet, if you read it, it claims to be provided by Divine Insperation as well. Man edited it. Yes it didn't agree with the majority, but then again, since when does the majority make it right?

"Correct, that's why those works were rejected as canon"

You missed the point. He is the Jesus you know because the other stories weren't kept. If they had been kept, and the ones we read had been dropped, you would have viewed Him differently. It was Man who put the Bible together. It was Man who omitted.

"I DID clearly state that we don't know what the rate was in the past. That does not dismiss a logical pattern, just not a constant one."

Hince the term "Logarithm." (however, please explain a logical pattern that doesn't have a constant pattern) The RATE is always the same, that's why it's a RATE. It would be like saying "100% NOW isn't worth a 100% 5 mins ago"

"God said 6 24-hour days. You're saying He just said that when it was really something else. Therefore you're calling God a liar."

God said "6 periods of time and a final one for rest." You said "6 24-hour days" (BTW, a day is shy of a full 24)

"I do love God on a one-on-one basis. And we only know Him as He reveals Himself in His word."

That right there tells me you don't feel God right now. You can't even tell me God is in your life. To you, He's a fantastic character in a book. To me, He's showing Himself every dawn. He watches over myself and my lovely girlfriend whom I plan to marry. I talk to Him, and He listens to me. He isn't some paper, He's alive, and I know Him, and I believe in His Son.

The Devil may not fear a dusty Bible; I don't fear a devil with God in my life, not in my hands.

And BTW, how do you know the Holy Spirit isn't in me right now, telling me what to write? How do you know whether my writings are from Divine Inspiration or not? How do you know God isn't speaking through me, teaching you to simply get the gist of the Bible, and live your life with love in mind and heart?

"With a believer, I could discuss the Word of God and the scientific evidence for Creation.

With an honest non-believer, I could discuss the scientific evidence for intelligent design. "

for one thing, i believe. For another, I support the evidence for both. However, yours is not the only evidence. I feel intelligent design is a given. The story of Creation may have been imbelished somewhere down the line, but in essence proves the point for intelligent design.

Again, as I have said though; Jesus spoke in parables. Who are you to know if God was speaking a story or not? A story is NOT A LIE, it is a simplified way of feeding extremely complex information to people who may or may not be capable of understanding the true origins.

It would be like reading a 200 page book of Tom Sayer. The story is not disagreeing with the original story, it is simply giving us the basic ideas to found our conversations about it without being 600 pages and filled with details. For example; what colour was Adam's hair? How come in the Torah we hear of a woman BEFORE Eve, but it is dropped in the Bible?

"At this point, this conversation ends. I could discuss science with a non-believer or a believer without problem. You however are a scoffer, doubting the very word of God yet claiming to believe in Him. You simply gainsay every point from belief by saying "nuh uh" in cleverly more words."

Far from it! I believe in the Word of our God. It is the people who write something down and want us to automatically obey the word THEY wrote down I scoff. I have full faith in God, it's Man I fear.

I believe in God, not Flesh. I lean not on my own understanding... nor anyone like me, for they are also flawed and human.


63 posted on 09/10/2004 9:23:59 AM PDT by MacDorcha
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To: MacDorcha

Perhaps one day you'll be at a point to continue this conversation.

You're young right now and unwilling to see truth. You're also unwilling or uncapable of carrying on a reasoned debate which is shown each time to repeat things that you've already been corrected on.

Take care. I hope you and your fiance are not unequally yoked.


64 posted on 09/10/2004 10:25:42 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second (Conservative Anti-Smoker))
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