[secretagent]

Juries can debate as to when violence responds, with prudence, to a threat, or itself initiates it.

At the international level, we have that debate over the invasion of Iraq.

A good premise to accept - "thou shall not initiate force". We can argue over who initiates force, but great if we at least accept the premise.

[jackbob]

I don't agree that defense against all threats should be solely left to juries to decide. The benefit of having laws regarding threats are as important as having laws against other crimes. People should know what their rights are, as well as the limits of those rights.